• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    there was a time when conspiracy loons would fearmonger about “digital currency” and “cashless society” and yet here we are…

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      23 days ago

      They still are.

      Bitcoin mining may be our last line of defense against a CBDC [Central Bank Digital Currency],” Trump said in a Truth Social post Tuesday

      Don’t use the imaginary digital currency made by the deep state. Use this specific digital currency that I have a huge financial interest in!

  • Willow.@discuss.tchncs.de
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    23 days ago

    Once again Trump proves himself to be a mere opportunist and grifter without principles or convictions. While in office Steven Mnuchin tried to kill crypto at the behest of the banking industry and Trump was vocal against Bitcoin. Once he left the White House he peddled his own NFTs.

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      23 days ago

      We all know politicians have no morals. The reason he changed his stance is very simply because the crypto industry very well could get him elected. Crypto is a growing concern for a lot of people and he has to see that.

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    23 days ago

    “Bitcoin mining may be our last line of defense against a CBDC [Central Bank Digital Currency],” Trump said in a Truth Social post Tuesday. “Biden’s hatred of Bitcoin only helps China, Russia, and the Radical Communist Left. We want all the remaining Bitcoin to be MADE IN THE USA!!! It will help us be ENERGY DOMINANT!!!”

    I love using social media, but I sure miss the politics of the pre-social-media era. The craziness levels were considerably lower.

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      22 days ago

      Wait so the play is to make us push bitcoin BECAUSE its a huge energy hog to float fossil fuels prices UP?

      Honestly wtf kind of policy is this?

      Like at least white nationalist pull in 2016 was pretty clear cut, but who the hell is that even for? Like what chud libertarian wants to see the government artificial increase energy prices?

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    23 days ago

    I’m quite frankly glad to see this, because that means that the United States will have no ability to ban it, what with the ETFs and everything, and as long as you can buy any kind of crypto at all, you can buy Monero. Also, the launch of decentralized peer-to-peer exchanges is helping to give the middle finger to the government.

    Edit: I am getting out of the dollar as fast as I can while there are still fools gullible enough to accept a depreciating currency.

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      23 days ago

      …I’m so out of the loop here. I want to say I disagree with you, because it sounds insane, but I don’t know enough about the subject matter to dispute it. What the hell is Monero?

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    23 days ago

    Everybody sell. You know how you can’t really tell when a stock is going to tank? Well, this time it’s like we’re doing economics with training wheels. You won’t get hurt, and you can see what’s coming. You just gotta sell now before the floor drops out.

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    Trump said in a Truth Social post Tuesday. “Biden’s hatred of Bitcoin only helps China, Russia, and the Radical Communist Left. We want all the remaining Bitcoin to be MADE IN THE USA!!! It will help us be ENERGY DOMINANT!!!”

    Didn’t COMMUNIST China ban it mostly because it was putting strain on their grid? Not sure how wasting states worth of electricity to fuel a glorified ponzi scheme is going to help with energy dominance but who am I to question the self-proclaimed genius.

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      23 days ago

      They banned exchanges because people were able to move their wealth out of China

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      22 days ago

      Yes, some of the biggest crypto providers are de facto chinese. They trade big time, always have. When techno idealists in the west were still discussing Bitcoin as a free currency over a decade ago, china already ran gigantic crypto miner farms and saw it only as a speculative asset. They knew from the very first day it‘s not about using crypto, but making money trading and holding it.

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      22 days ago

      Yeah it’s telling that this grifter is talking about Bitcoin when most other cryptos are massively more efficient. Even within crypto bitcoin is an obsolete technology. This is more for the like coal sector than crypto.

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    23 days ago

    Bitcoin it’s nothing else than the way the west it’s fighting against the Chinese economy, it’s just making money anonymously where there is no money. Better than using the classic central bank method.

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      22 days ago

      This is somewhat of a conspiracy theory but I’m surprised it’s not a more popular conspiracy theory. I’ve always had the suspicion that crypto is an op by cia/nsa or like japan or somebody.

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        What’s better to sustain a fake economy than a mechanism to make money from nowhere anonymously? I mean isn’t like someone will push a button and do it, it’s more like the bigger owners of bitcoin are a handful of people/corps and they can easily coordinate their actions to manipulate the value. WO mention it trading on the stock market…

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    23 days ago

    Everyone who has not regarded crypto as a scam will certainly do, once he’s done with the pump and dump he’s setting up here.

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      22 days ago

      If this is a move to commit dark money campaign fraud again before his sentencing on the last case of it is even done I would want to see a live reaction of the judge when he hears that

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      23 days ago

      It’s like trying to watch a 5 year old lie about eatching chocolate, when theres chocolate on their nose.

      It would be funny and adorable if he weren’t so hateful and racist, with real world consequences.

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    23 days ago

    Bitcoin doesn’t move like the stock market. There’s no hedge funds to call to naked short a nonexistent Bitcoin Inc in to the dirt. This means nothing.

    That said I’d live bitcoin to go to a penny. I’d buy and hodl. I’d buy and hodl hard.

    That said, fuck Trump. But not literally because his lineage should be pruned.

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      23 days ago

      Monero is what Bitcoiners thought they bought. It’s completely fungible and private just as cash is supposed to be.

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        23 days ago

        Monero is great. Only crypto currency I actually use. Transactions are also waaay cheaper and faster than with Bitcoin.

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          22 days ago

          Monero uses RandomX which must be done only on CPU which limits power consumption drastically and promotes decentralization rather than mining farms like bitcoin. Both of those combined will make it much easier for utilities to handle it. Since one utility won’t be getting hit with extreme load from mining farms all in one single area, such as Texas. You’ve also got to consider how much electricity does the banking industry as a whole use for building their buildings, bringing employees to work, shuttling money around in armored trucks, all that stuff. There’s probably tons I’m not even thinking of. Proof of work is better than proof of stake simply because a governmyth can’t print more of their crap fiat currency and buy up more stake in order to hurt the network. If a government wants to attack Ethereum, they just print more fiat currency and buy Ethereum. If they want to attack Bitcoin or Monero, they have to buy the equipment to do so and then plug it in and use power. They would have to sacrifice something real in order to do that.

          Edit: https://www.coindesk.com/opinion/2024/06/13/bitcoin-mining-stabilizes-power-grids-strained-by-ai-data-centers/

    • HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      23 days ago

      Tin-foil hat time but I’d be willing to bet they have mechanisms to do something resembling naked shorting with crypto. I have no idea what that voodoo might be, but they conjure shares out of thin air for shorting stocks, and they’ve managed to package crypto into ETFs some-fucking-how so why not. I feel like I’m increasingly noticing that nothing really seems to crash anymore.