Apple just had the negotiator of the year right there, or OpenAI is really that bad.
It’s especially bad knowing that I’m this setup, all of OpenAI is replaceable in Apple’s code by changing a single line of code and pointing to a different API.
You are the product.
I don’t know with this one.
OpenAI isn’t allowed to blindly scrape iPhone or iCloud user’s data. They can only learn from whatever data the user submits in a query. And Apple forces users to consent to every single query that is sent to OpenAI. And that query compute is expensive.
Given that Apple built in a way for GPT pro licenses to be used, my guess is that selling the subscriptions is the real business angle.
Open AI will get data from those queries, but since it’s a query, it requires significant compute. Paying for compute for the world’s largest smart phone manufacturer is going to hurt if they can’t monetize somehow.
- Deploy a Turing-test beating interface in all Apple devices
- Appoint NSA to your board
- …
- PROFIT
Nothing says “We’re confident in the software we’re selling” like willing to work for exposure in hopes that somebody shills $20 for a subscription.
With the sheer amount of money that the rich are throwing at OpenAI via investment firms, they don’t need nor want to charge imo. The fact that they’re being built into Apple’s ecosystem and are getting name-dropped to people inside of iOS is kinda what their investors want.
It’s the age old “walmart opens and operates at a loss for 2 years to force others out of business, then jacks the price” model.
Investors want them to cement this as The AI company & brand so that once it gets giant and starts to be profitable just by being the biggest gorilla in the room, the shares they bought are worth more.
So what I’m trying to say is that our version of capitalism is perfect and makes lots of sense and is in no way insane and degenerate.
Exposure = They get to keep the data they get.
Data = money
They’ve found a way to make it work I’m sure.
Even if they don’t sell the data I’m sure it’s valuable for their models.
Apparently they won’t be collecting data.
Privacy protections are built in for users who access ChatGPT — their IP addresses are obscured, and OpenAI won’t store requests. ChatGPT’s data-use policies apply for users who choose to connect their account.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/06/introducing-apple-intelligence-for-iphone-ipad-and-mac/
I don’t believe that at all! There’s some kind of catch.
They pinky promise not to collect the data
I mean Apples the one saying it. I doubt OpenAI wants to piss them off.
How would Apple technically know that nothing is stored? Even if IPs are hidden, the questions and answers are still useful for OpenAI.
Yeah there’s definitely a contract, but open ai could determine it’s more profitable to void the contract and pay for lawyers and a settlement. Probably unlikely though to be fair.
This seems so obvious I’m amazed Apple isn’t charging them for the “exposure”
Apple needs them just as badly as OpenAI needs every iPhone user. They’re horribly behind in this “AI” bubble.
Imagine all the training they’ll get from random queries off of the millions of Apple users who don’t even know what chat GPT even is yet.
Supposedly they’re not allowed to use any data obtained from this for training purposes, at least according to the mkbhd video
It’s like telling your water to not run down the drain
I guess it deepened on what the onboarding flow looks like for newbies. The per-query alert is pretty minimal.
That said, my original point is that training data gathered from queries is probably not valuable enough to offset the costs of unpaid GP4 query compute for the biggest smart phone manufacturer on earth.
The data is valuable, but for GP4 access, OpenAI would rather scrape chat forums, sell integration licenses, or sell pro licenses to offset all those damn Nvidia chips.
Maybe OpenAI is hoping the cost of a couple million queries within a month will be offset once they start charging for it within a month or two.
