• Adderbox76@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    Wherever they go, Tim Horton’s Beiber-bites eventually follow. So yeah…in this case I’d agree with that assessment.

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    On Sunday, a group of 250 Iranian legislators introduced a motion that requires the administration to designate the Canadian Army and federal police forces as terrorist organizations.

    Historically speaking, from an indigenous perspective, the characterization of the RCMP as terrorist is not too far off the mark.

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    4 months ago

    Fair turnaround.

    It’s a stupid political label as long as our nastiest friends are worse than our nicest enemies. Nobody’s about to declare Saudi anything terroristic regardless of how many get chopped up, for example.

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    On Sunday, a group of 250 Iranian legislators introduced a motion that requires the administration to designate the Canadian Army and federal police forces as terrorist organizations.

    The Mounties too, I see.

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      4 months ago

      Anyone who’s seen Lore Lodge says that they probably should be called a terrorist organization

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          4 months ago

          A YouTube channel that discusses Missing 411 style content: people disappearing under mysterious circumstances.

          A running theme in their show is that overwhelmingly the RCMP are criminally negligent in their duties, are very quick to write off missing persons as runaways, do absolute garbage tier investigation, and that’s where my comment came from.

          Not necessarily a topical episode but I like this one: https://youtu.be/f7389EXjdBg

  • bamboo@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    All militaries are by definition terrorist organizations, this seems reasonable.

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      4 months ago

      That’s some exceptional watering down of the word terrorist you’re participating in there. Keep going and your both-sides-ing will make it so the IDF’s actions don’t seem abnormal at all!

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        Terrorism is any act that uses violence or fear of violence for a political goal. This is what militaries do, if you threaten them they use violence to suppress or kill you. Some of them are more successful than others, but fundamentally whether it’s a group of rebels or the military of a nation state, they use violence to force everyone within their controlled territory to submit to their authority.

        • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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          That isn’t the definition of terrorism. There isn’t one globally agreed upon definition but national and international law and even attempts by the UN to make a definition generally exclude state militaries. (The UN attempts at a definition always broke down over the status of organized militias in the context of national liberation and self-determination struggles.)

          The main exception is undercover agents. Like if a CIA agent pretends to be a civilian and does a terrorist attack, that’s considered terrorism.

          Militaries can be awful and violent and commit war crimes and even do the exact same things as terrorists. But it isn’t considered terrorism; it’s considered war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism

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            Yes of course the UN definition is going to be carefully crafted to make the violence committed by its member states “legal” and the actions committed by anyone else “illegal”.

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          By that argument, a “no shirt, no shoes, no service” policy is terrorism. “$1000 fine for littering” is terrorism. “Keep off the grass” is terrorism.

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            4 months ago

            I mean, if enforced with violence, sure. Usually that’s the job of the police, which are terrorist organizations. Some companies may also hire private mercenaries instead of using the state police, which serve the same function.

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              Uh huh.

              I have zero doubt that you would call 911 should the “need” arise. So you’re a terrorist as well. As am I. There is literally zero distinction between you, me, and Mohamed Atta.

              A puppy would qualify as a terrorist. A house cat. A sheep. A blackberry bush. An amoeba qualifies as a terrorist under this insane definition.

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                4 months ago

                Congratulations, you’ve realized terrorist is a meaningless word. Governments throw it around to tell us who to hate but ultimately it means nothing.

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                  Or, and hear me out on this: terrorist doesn’t mean “fucking anything ever”. The term actually only refers to those who use or threaten unlawful violence in an attempt to achieve an effect that could only be lawfully acquired through executive, legislative, judicial, or democratic processes.

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            Canada’s military was responsible for the subjugation and genocide of many First Nations group, including against the Metis, Cree, and Assiniboine peoples, as well as deployed abroad to subjugate the Boers in South Africa in support of the British Empire. The Canadian Army was also deployed in Afghanistan, where Western powers fought for two decades to replace the Taliban with the Taliban and caused untold amounts of suffering in the process.

            Now do Iran.

            • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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              The Clovis people would like a word.

              But they’re wiped out. Violently.

              Weird how that’s not in the stories though.

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                Genocide is ok because it happened in the past? Glad to know how much you respect the rule of law and whatever.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      4 months ago

      The CF is an armed force. It’s a force that is armed.

      Primarily it’s brought out for prisoner search and sandbags. So, so, so-so, so, so many sandbags.

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      You’re being down voted, but I want to add in that terrorism is a word used by the ruling class to tell you who to hate. When the state (usually, although this case didn’t exempt them) uses violence and fear, that’s the good kind of violence and fear. When a non-state actor uses it, it’s terrorism. The only thing that separates “justified force” from “terrorism” is if the ruling class wants you to like it or not. For example, look at what the IDF is doing. It somehow isn’t terrorism just because they’re a state who’s in favor with the ruling class?