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          It’s the only CMS that runs on a classic AMP stack which is still the standard with cheap web hosters. And since everyone and their dog is using it, you can easily find support and ready-to-use plugins for almost anything.

          In the car world, WordPress is your plain old petrol car that just runs, can easily be refuelled and you can get anything repaired at every other street corner. That’s why it is still so widespread.

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            Drupal is out there. It’s not perfect but it’s well maintained and quite powerful with good community support.

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          Ghost runs on NodeJS which isn’t available at most cheap webhosters. Also it doesn’t do traditional blog things like pingbacks, trackbacks or webmentions.

          BearBlog can’t be self-hosted at all - it says so right on their GitHub’s README.

          WriteFreely is a Go binary that - again - isn’t supported on most cheap hosters. Also I can’t seem to find anything about it supporting pingbacks, trackbacks or webmentions. It seems to be more like a one-user Mastodon instance.

        • Tavi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          You can try it, but I switched from Ghost to WordPress because of auto updates. Default ghost docker image doesn’t pin the correct DB version which causes errors, and watchtower updates break your website. Also, very little in the way of existing plugins or themes. Typing a new article doesn’t give much in the way for formatting.

          Way more documentation on the WordPress side of things and just general QoL stuff. Plus, free templates. Spaghetti it is, but spaghetti works and I don’t feel like using Hugo.

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          first one isn’t free

          second one you have to migrate posts using ctrl+c ctrl+v and then hand type the publish date

          third one you have to already have built your own SQL database

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      Over the past 4 years WordPress usage has grown from 35% to 43.4% [W3 Techs]

      As much as I hate so much about WordPress, yes it is the most used CMS. Period. Your comment is just ignorant.

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      Laziest common response to things like this. People still use Windows? People still use cars? WordPress is insanely popular and there’s no indication that’s going to change. Not even after you’ve chosem to signal to all of us here that you don’t use it. Good for you, though!

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        Something that gets built on my machine and pushed up to the site and doesn’t allow third party code to execute on the backend.

        It really depends on what the website is.

        If you have a use case, I can be more detailed.

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    If i were to take a shot every time vulnerabilities are found in the WordPress ecosystem i’d be comatose by now…

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      I’d guess it’s not because of the inherent insecurity of WordPress, but the sheer size of the ecosystem and the fact that like 40% of the Internet is WordPress sites.

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        If you want a mostly straightforward WordPress-alike that’s not WordPress, you probably should at least consider Ghost. I’m using it for my blog and it’s got a slightly weird focus on “paid blog members”, but it’s super solid and doesn’t have a multi-decade history of endless security problems.

        And, soon, it’ll be a happy member of the Fediverse.

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        If you want to add something to your website then you’re already running WordPress, no?

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        Drupal, but you are getting into a different type of complex symfony code built on years and years of drupalism’s. It’s powerful and pretty well maintained though.

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      It’s not the product, it’s the cavalier consumption of unsigned add-ons despite knowing better.

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    Representatives for developers of the remaining three plugins couldn’t be reached because they provided no contact information on their sites.

    You’re asking for trouble is you’re using such random plugins on a production sites.

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      oh boy, the average wordpress site has like 30 plugins and the top bar is getting cluttered with so many plugin upsells that it fills the whole screen. There’s a huge industry of people making wordpress sites who shouldn’t.

      It’s quite frustrating to be asked as a dev to “fix” people’s site as my usual response is “shut it off and redo it well”.

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        Funnily enough, I was hearing this from developers in the early 2010s when I was just starting my career (IT adjacent, but not a developer).

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          Seriously, people have been saying this stuff about WordPress as long as it’s been around, and I’m always surprised that it still exists. This was definitely one of those technologies that sounded bad enough that it could never last. Joke is on me.

          Of course I thought the same with JavaScript but was forced to learn it last year

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        It’s really a shame because by now WordPress itself actually works quite well. Sure, it’s fueled by unspeakably ugly spaghetti code. But at least it’s unspeakably ugly spaghetti code that works and receives regular automatic updates.

        And other than putting up a verification program I don’t see what they could do to improve the plugin situation.

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          I agree. I don’t hate wordpress. It seems a bit dated by today’s standards and bloated in some aspects but you can definitely make a solid, fast website with it. It’s getting a bad reputation for its toxic plugin dev scene and crappy sites built using Elementor.

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              As someone who found elementor the only thing that was working at the time - any suggestions to do better? I have no coding experience fyi

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          Regular automatic updates on ugly spaghetti code feels like it’s just asking for trouble.

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        There’s a huge industry of people making wordpress sites who shouldn’t.

        And this is why I hate the state of the whole hacking scene and that now nation states are also carrying out en masse attacks. Everyone should be free to make a site on Wordpress or whatever. If they can’t, that’s how we get everyone on like 3 corporate platforms like Facebook.