• Wrench@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    It’s weird that they don’t really address the biggest reason Googles algorithm is worse now. The rampant exploitation of SEO.

    Bad actors abuse the system in an attempt to be the first result, regardless of relevancy. It’s harder for Google to sift the chaff out than it used to be, because they’re flooded with content claiming to be related to the search keys.

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      9 days ago

      I’m slowly moving away to open source, self-hosted applications where possible. Changed search to a combination of Gibiru and Yep. Email to a mailcow server I host on a vps, and I’m moving photos to an Immich server I’m setting up. Home Automation is next, I have a Raspberry Pi 5 to act as the Home Assistant server. And a few other projects in the works to split from Google as much as I can and mostly it is all better.

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    8 days ago

    You either die a hero or live and watch yourself turn into a villian.

    Tom’s hardware, woot, and most recently donut media just to name a few. All were once the place to go, they all were bought out by bigger interest and eventually became the villian.

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        8 days ago

        They’ve been bought by an entertainment parent company, which is why the glut of sponsorships along with their content leaning towards pure entertainment instead of including educational and DIY content. Zach and Jeremiah started their own thing recently and explain in their first video.

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    9 days ago

    Is GN going to put Google on a Performance Improvement Plan like they did with Asus?

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        9 days ago

        Similar tactic among all the large tech corpos, switch focus to IaaS, PaaS, SaaS, become the backbone of the modern computing landscape.

        It’s basically a slow switch to becoming critical international infrastructure like power grids, water ways, and gas/oil pipelines.

        This all while locking you in as much as possible and milking as much value as they can squeeze.

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      9 days ago

      I mean IBM is still traded but it’s a shadow if it’s former self

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      8 days ago

      ICQ shut down yesterday and it was relatively small to begin with so I‘m afraid Google will be around for decades to come and possibly outlive most or even all of us.

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      9 days ago

      Yahoo is still around in some form or another.

      Alphabet has enough money to persist well after they lose relevance.

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    9 days ago

    It’s not even that their results suck, per se, but they straight up ignore most of my search query and focus on one or two words only. Obviously that makes your search results suck.

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    9 days ago

    "Google is getting worse. Now watch me talk about the situation on a youtube video. Youtube is a property owned by google. "

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      9 days ago

      I get what you’re saying, but they use the platform to spread the word quicker and reach a bigger audience.

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      9 days ago

      Will we do have Youtube alternatives (Odysee & Rumble). But people can’t filter out the stuff, they don’t like on Odysee & Rumble. They can do that on Youtube but not on Youtube alternatives. So yeah.

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        9 days ago

        Just took a look at them, and Rumble is for sure a hard pass. The 2 rows under “news” is all far-right extremist videos, which is great if you are aiming for the Parlor/Truth Social/Nazi and Nazi sympathizers of the internet, but I think you’ll miss most of the world going that toxic on the frontage.

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          9 days ago

          There’s also PeerTube, the Fediverse counterpart to YouTube. Unfortunately, while there’s some good stuff you can find (and some re-uploads of YouTube), there’s just not as much content. I’d imagine the userbase is pretty small, too.

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            8 days ago

            I hope the fediverse attracts enough adoption to make it long term viable. I am making an effort to be here more than there for lemmy/Reddit but YouTube is still harder to quit

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            9 days ago

            To your point, the amount of money/effort to even try and rival YouTube (and/or Google) would be a hell of a task for sure. Since you would want it to be open, well moderated (but not so much that the majority of people scream “censorship!”), and be able to store/encode/serve a wild amount of video daily. And the later 2 things get exponentially more difficult as you scale.

            It would need to be like the Fediverse on steroids, doing a distributed filesystem allowing every federated member to host/encode/serve part of the burden (like Kazaa/Limewire/DC++) but in some manner that people could be assured node hosts couldn’t tamper with videos. And then you would also need some sort of reward for creators that wouldn’t somehow lead to greedy power struggles causing an implosion of your open platform.

            Ah, to dream.

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              9 days ago

              Okay. My point is we have Youtube alternatives. But people don’t use them. Because they can’t filter out the stuff they don’t like.

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                9 days ago

                In their current state, I would argue none of them are actually alternatives in the sense of being a real replacement. None of them is setup to scale, making the moderation/filtering point kinda moot.

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      8 days ago

      You know who is most fed up with YouTube’s policies? Content creators on YouTube. They’re locked in, they know it, and they hate it.

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    9 days ago

    Getting worse is putting it lightly.

    Get the fuck off Google services if you can. Highly recommend Proton mail and drive as a replacement.

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      Just signed up after they announced the non-profit and mmigrated all my mail. So far so good.

      I wouldn’t go from Google to another for-profit though. I know how it ends.

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        9 days ago

        It’s like Gmail except it has a proper dark mode and Google isn’t reading all your emails

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        9 days ago

        Been using their paid email, drive and vpn for the last couple of years and their service has been flawless in my experience. Great apps and never had an outage or issues once.

        Free versions are available but the paid version is well worth it.

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          I’ve been with them for a couple of years too and I use all their services (mail, calendar, drive, VPN, pass and simplelogin) but calling it flawless is a bit of an overstatement.

          Their outside communication is nonexistent at best, development speed is unbearably slow and Linux support, the most privacy countious user-base?, is lacking a lot.

          Hopefully in the next couple years they sinally manage to release contact sync and a Linux client for Drive.

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        Gmail and other big providers tend to consider new domains to be spam until they’ve proven otherwise. Can’t prove otherwise until you’ve been up and running for a while. Catch-22. The way out of that is to host with an existing provider for a few years.

        Does it cut down on spam? Perhaps. Does it favor existing providers like Gmail? Yes, definitely.

        Honestly, hosting email has long been difficult to setup, and all the more so if you don’t want your box to be a spam host within three seconds of plugging it in.

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          I’ve been hosting a personal domain with an established-but-not-large hosting provider for around 6 years, without any troubles sending or receiving mail from that domain (via the provider’s servers, of course).

          Does that mean my domain is now well established enough to take email hosting to my own server?

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        I use a cheap VPS to host my email server. It’s a bit easier than running it solely at home, but there’s a lot of annoying work to “verify” yourself. Once you get your DNS records good, you shouldn’t be blocked after that (unlike a home server). It only costs me $5/month plus the domain, which I think is money well spent. Doing the admin work to make sure I’m secure still needs to happen, but I don’t mind that work and find it fun.

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        You’d have to be really committed. There’s more admin work than you think to make sure you’re not insecure or getting blocked.