Just in time for Google to kill RCS and move on to something else.
While users can see the toggle if they have installed the iOS 18 developer beta
Anyone know what toggle they are talking about? I’m not seeing anything in Messages settings nor Cellular settings. Or do they mean the toggle is US-exclusive?
edit: Ah, I found a screenshot. It’s supposed to be under the MMS messaging toggle in Messages settings but doesn’t show up for everyone yet (including me).
In Taiwan, nobody uses iMessage. It’s an app called Line and it’s basically the WeChat of Taiwan.
So we can basically hop from Apple to Android without issues with our messages. So that’s why the % of Apple users are not inflated because of the dark patterns they are doing in the US.
The advantage of iMessage is SMS fallback when you don’t have internet access.
Yeah, this text messaging is very different the all over the world. Different phone, different carrier policies and different apps have resulted in different nations being invested in different platforms.
SMS, and things that piggy back on it, dominate north America. So this will mean more to those users than people in Europe, Asia, etc.
Well, having an app that isn’t tried down by an OS would be great. You could install Google meet on an iphone. Apple is just trying to take more market share.
Alternative SMS / RCS apps in iOS would be very nice to have.
That said, people who are buying iPhones are usually buying iPhones because they like Apple’s experiences. People that want more options for default apps tend to be going to Android.
At least with SMS / RCS, people can buy a different phone and explore different clients. When I talk to my friends and family in countries dominated by Line, WeChat, or WhatsApp, I’m kind of stuck dealing with those crappy user experiences. Those companies want to trap me in their user experiences and there are even fewer alternatives if I want to interact on their platforms.
In Europe everyone uses WhatsApp and I‘d rather use iMessage than sell my soul to meta… (Which I am. And Signal and Telegram. Only using WhatsApp for work)
European here, this is just wrong, I don’t use WhatsApp, nor does my friends or family
Everyone was an exaggeration, obviously. WhatsApp is still very prominent and the primary messaging service in large parts of Europe.
Unfortunately, I don’t trust Apple either. I think Telegram or Signal might be a good option, but then again. They are just a CEO away from it being shitty.
I wish there was a better solution that is OSS but it won’t catch on.
There are things like Matrix.
Unfortunately it lacks things like video chat. :(
I think they’re working on that but yea like all open source software it’s a bit janky of a user experience.
I trust them a bit more than meta or google. Meta‘s main business model is selling data/ads. Apple’s main business model is selling hardware.
I think they sell the perception of privacy. They might not sell your data, but they certainly use that data to sell to you. They only care about profits and any privacy that you think you might have is just a byproduct of that greed.
Apple is an optics company and damn good at it too.
I know Apple aren’t perfect but they are the only major tech company that even try to seem like they take privacy seriously. Obviously, we don’t know how much data they actually harvest but at least they say it’s all private and on device. They make a believable case for their product actually being their hardware. You even pay extra for that. Meta, Google, Microsoft & Co. are pretty open, that all they want is your data and that you are the product. So, unless you want to go the extra mile and actively pursue privacy (get ungoogled android or a Linux phone, and only use open source software, etc.), Apple seems to be your best bet, imo
Normies will use Apple because they claim to have privacy in their forefront. Nerds like me degoogle and don’t use social media(unless you count this… What is Lemmy?).
It’s easier to go Apple. Difficult to use Android and own your privacy.
They will still keep them green. You know how teens react to those bubbles.
I do, and I couldn’t care less. I think a visual indicator that tells me “hey, this is an iMessage” or “hey, this is an SMS/RCS message” is a very good thing to have.
I agree, for both send and receive since ios can send messages differently (text vs imessage)
It’s hard to read the text against a green background too. I’m so tired of Apple.
That’s how I react to those bubbles. It means any image I send is going to be compressed to shit and be utterly unrecognizable. Messages will sent out of order or not at all. Group chats are completely fucked.
I’m sure Apple shares a lot of the blame, but holy shit how is this not solved in 2024. I shouldn’t have to resort to spam filled shitware from Meta to get remotely modern messaging cross platform
Hope rcs pans out and soon
Google had the chance to make its Hangouts messaging app dominant when it was, briefly the default SMS client on Android devices. They threw that away following pushback from carriers.
I’m glad Google doesn’t have the dominant messaging service, but I find it bizarre anybody still uses SMS when there are so many internet-based options. I have six, and if somebody really wants to use another, I’ll probably add it.
I’m sure Apple shares a lot of the blame, but holy shit how is this not solved in 2024. I shouldn’t have to resort to spam filled shitware from Meta to get remotely modern messaging cross platform
There’s no shortage of options; the problem is getting the people you’re talking to to agree on one you like. I find Signal strikes a good balance between goodness and ease of use, and many people I know who aren’t tech or privacy nerds use it.
They’re also adding a lot more incompatible text formatting and shit to keep Android incomplete with their real chat protocol. Gotta keep those teens bullying Android users. Also E2E encryption would be nice, but the EU didn’t force them to do that.
Still great because MMS is garbage and ruins photo and video quality.
There is no E2EE in RCS, so no amount of EU push would’ve enabled that. Also RCS was not a EU play, it’s a China play. RCS features are dependent on carrier implementation against GSM consortium’s spec.
So no, everything there is basically wrong… but hey, it goes well with the echo chamber vibes so upvotes to you!
That’s a really dick way to respond to that post
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