Windows 11 is getting out of hand with its push for advertisments, frankly - remember the recent full-screen pop-up to persuade users to install Edge or other Microsoft services? Then another advertisment was placed in the Start menu, and now Microsoft has finally worn my temper thin - with a new Game Pass ad coming to the Settings app.
This will likely arrive in the July update for Windows 11, or at least it’s almost certain to do so. It was present in the latest preview update Microsoft just released for the OS (and quickly paused due to a bug, but that’s another story). It’s also worth noting that the ad has been present in earlier test versions of Windows 11.
If you order the shit soup, don’t act surprised if it tastes bad.
These people are CHOOSING to use Windows. They need to just STFU and use Linux or enjoy the shit soup they keep ordering.
Microsoft is so confident in its desktop marketshare that they allow themselves to push the overton window on what users will tolerate.
The only competitor they can lose users to is Apple. And even then not everyone can afford an Apple computer, especially in the rest of the world
this is definitely the worst thing ever /s
Guys, I’ll switch in a heartbeat to a Linux OS if any one you can recommend a stable OS that works on a Surface Go 2. It should support its touchscreen, of course, and a Surface Pen. Plus, a FOSS alternative to Journal would be stellar
Have you looked into Mint?
The linux mint forums make it seem like it works out of the box. I know that it worked out of the box for my Thinkpad x380, even the touchscreen, pen, and screen rotation.
Idk man but try OpenSuse, It’s pretty cool. Here is the review that make me install it
Your hardware has to have support for Linux, not the other way around.
Idk Journal but you can give Xournal a try, it works pretty well and you can arrange all the buttons to your liking
I’m running Ubuntu on a Surface Laptop Studio. I really like it, though I have not yet gotten the touchscreen and pen working.
If I figure it out (and I remember) I’ll let you know.
I’ve been running Bazzite on an old 1st gen Surface Book Pro that I had laying around. Touch screen and all the fancy keyboard stuff works great.
I use edge and subscribe to gamepass, so the ads is gone, right?
“Too far” is what they’re looking for. In other words, “How much bullshit can we cram down their throats before they’ll spend an absurd amount of money on a disposable Macbook or spend their days becoming a sysadmin so they can use Linux?” Doesn’t seem that they’ve found that line yet. They’re still looking.
Saying Linux is for sysadmins (or similar) is like saying Framework Laptop is only for repair technicians.
…except it’s not?
Our office uses windows, and egde feels like malware to me
I legitimately, non-ironically, prefer Edge over Chrome, and I cannot explain why; possibly brain damage, possibly too lazy to download Chrome or Firefox and setup my account for either.
I don’t really like chrome either to be honest
For me it’s a pragmatic desire to share information with as few megacorporations as possible.
I deal with MSFT for so many other things, not all by choice - and Edge does everything I need it to do.
As with many such questions, it’s about the trade-off you are prepared to accept.
Edge and Chrome are basically very similar at this point. Firefox is my browser of choice these days. It’s not perfect, but at least it isn’t anti-adblocking and doesn’t freak out when I block 8.8.8.8 like Chrome and the Google devices in my house. I’m moving away from Google as they move away from not being evil. Moving to self hosted stuff as much as I can for photos, email, file storage, and soon, home automation.
So, does PiHole work against this threat? I don’t believe I’ve seen an ad on Windows 11 yet on my desktop, but it’s firmly behind a PiHole and never leaves the house (because desktop)… so either I’m lucky, missing something, or it’s working.
I mean, I basically just boot it up to game and backup CDs to FLAC and such, so maybe I’m just missing things.
And Yes, as someone who has used linux since 1995, I know I can probably do those things in Linux at this point, but I couldn’t when I set it up and since it’s working I’ve got other things higher on my list to do.
No, Pihole doesn’t help.
I think the reason you say you haven’t seen an ad on Windows is because the ads aren’t the traditional ads like you see on a webpage.
When someone talks about an ad on Windows, they are referring to the Spotify app presinstalled in the Start Menu, the OneDrive prompt for backing up during setup, and the weather bug on the taskbar that brings up news if you click it.
You might think that a weather widget isn’t an ad, but the idea is you click it, see a relevant news article, click the news article and you are taken to a traditional webpage with ads.
I’ve never actually seen an ad in Windows… Like, literally ever. The worst I’ve seen is Windows trying to trick me into making edge my default browser.
If I believed all the articles on Lemmy, every part of the OS now has embedded ads, and the OS itself is recording everything I ever do against my will and without my knowledge.
0 ads too, windows 11 last update. Lemmy circlejerk is pretty much this. These threads are either fake news or ragebait, and the comments are just uninformed/untested opinions.
That without saying that win11 ltsc exists now. At least is something to test.
Windows is selling data from what you do and making money and you just aren’t noticing the adds are tailored to you.
It’s the type of thing that seems harmless, unless you are a woman searching for an abortion provider and Microsoft sells that, and then an ultra-right wing religious majority comes to power and decides to retroactively put to death all women who have had an abortion and use that data to put you to death.
This surveilance mechanism is mostly harmless… until one day it’s not.
I see ads pretty much everyday in Windows. They’re not as attention grabbing as traditional ads and I think this is part of why some people don’t see them.
Win 8 was aggregious. 10 is more subtle (little notifications now and then)
Enterprise is better
I’ve personally seen ads in the start menu. It was my last straw, convincing me to move to Linux full time.
I know that this expression desensitises people to something serious, but it describes Microsoft - the “it”/corporation - perfectly: rapist mentality. It shows how eager Microsoft is to disregard consent, users saying “no, I don’t want it”, and to forge itself over the users as long as it gets some benefit out of it.
Including new obnoxious advertisement slots into an already released product - one that you paid for - is only a result of that mentality.
Microsoft has gone too far:
Just now, with this?
Must’ve been asleep for the recall shenanigans
Microsoft went too far in 2001 when they included a new online activation feature in Windows XP which spearheaded the future of drm and enshitification. All the most recent stuff is just more icing on the shit cake. They’ve been one-upping themselves ever since.
I’d say that the ‘modern’ era of Microsoft Enshittification started with IE4 as well as Windows 98. The Channel bar put ads on the Windows 95 & 98 desktops. It was easily disabled, but even that far back, Microsoft was starting to work on making their stuff suck just that much more.
Next was Windows ME blocking DOS access, while still running on DOS, making the OS a bit … unstable, followed by your point of Software Activation in XP.
Windows 2000 was amazing, though. Something really inspiring belief in good corporations and bright capitalist future. LOL
Great shit analogy, Bo Bandi.
Thanks, Mr.Layhe
Stallman warned us, we didn’t listen.
I’m glad to see BadVista still up https://badvista.fsf.org/blog/view/?set_language=en
If comsic desktop gets a perfect launch, it wouldn’t be an over exaggeration to say, some amount of people will switch
The Next Great Thing™ will not make a number of users that is significant to any real world scenario move away from Windows. The only approach that might have a chance to do that is something that looks and feels as close as possible to Windows. Yes even the parts of Windows that are bad. All of it, except the most glaringly obviously horrible stuff (like ads in menus). And that also includes all the programs a significant number of users care about either running there out of the box without having to jump through any hoops or a replacement fulfilling the same “looks, feels and operates almost identical” criteria.
People care about something feeling familiar and not having to relearn stuff a lot more than about shiny new features.
Considering ms has changed the look and feel of windows itself over the years, sometimes pretty drastically, there’s some leeway there.
I like pop_os, I run it on my laptop and will definitely be using Cosmic, but I think people are putting too much hope in it.
Win11 becomes a less and less appealing switch day by day… When I can no longer hold into Win10, I think I’ll just have to jump ship to Linux.
Win10 is already quite privacy poor, but Win11 is straight up intolerable.
My machine cannot run 11 because of the arbitrary hardware requirements so I was looking down the barrel of Win10 being no longer supported next year.
I proactively installed Linux Mint on a second SSD I had kicking around just to see if I could live with it without making any commitments. I never looked back since then. I switched to OpenSUSE soon after though but that was because I wanted something that ran the KDE Plasma 6 desktop environment because I didn’t like how Cinnamon was handling multiple monitors. But I haven’t booted up my Windows 10 drive since then, other than to migrate some files I needed.
Are you going to have to deal with a full-screen ad when you’re trying to open File Explorer eventually?
I was literally reading this sentence when the whole page grayed out and a window asking me to subscribe popped up.
