Ersei, the developer behind this so-called Cloud Native Computer, says the project was primarily a “silly” pursuit. There is also a problem with booting from Google Drive currently being very slow. However, the dev also boasts that “the possibilities are endless” and would welcome any companies or individuals who wish to get in contact and discuss commercializing this project or something related to it.
Soo, booting your computer from someone else’s computer?
I mean we’ve had thin clients and PXE for ages?
And bootp before that, and tftp before that. So I think roughly… 35 years?
PXE specifically uses tftp doesn’t it?
More being able to use cloud storage and not need a physical computer. In theory the cloud can be accessed anywhere, even if a portion is down, not the same for a single physical PC.
More being able to use cloud storage and not need a physical computer.
Are you going to access The Cloud telepathically?
The cloud is many computers with a redundancy, you putting multiple PCs in remote locations so you can access when one goes down….?
Yes I understand how The Cloud works…?
Okay so you should comprehend how multiple “computers” allow a redundancy over a single one.
Yeah….?
You can’t access a remote physical computer without internet either? So what’s your point here?
I don’t have a point. Just asked a question.
I do, clearly you don’t if you need to ask the question.
So what are you doing here exactly? You’re not adding to the discussion, so that would make you a troll, no?
The joke is about what exactly you’re doing with the cloud with no physical computer in front of you.
Why is there a “joke” here?
Clearly some people don’t understand how a cloud infrastructure which is multiple “computers” is vastly different than a single individual “PC” which has ZERO redundancy….
You aren’t one of these idiots are you…?
Because you said “not need a physical computer”. If there is no physical computer, with what device are you accessing the cloud?
Because the cloud is not one single “computer” to call it a PC would be incorrect, hence my distinction. It’s not even a full computer, it’s usually a bank of particular components.
Why do you need this explained to you…?
There is no joke here, just morons like you who don’t comprehend the difference between a personal computer which is a self contained entity, and the cloud, which is a conglomeration of components.
The joke here is you and your lack of understanding apparently…
is the non physical cloud in the room right now?
Google redundancy.
Do thin clients and PXE require a server specifically configured to serve a boot image? (Genuinely asking.)
I’m not sure whether this project is doing something new by just accessing network resources that are nothing more than shared files, without any specific software running on the server (beyond just a server serving files).
Yes, they do. The novel thing here is serving the files out of Google Drive.
There are existing PXE servers that run over the Internet, like boot.netboot.xyz, so that you don’t have to run your own (assuming you trust everyone involved in that connection). Those are far more practical.
Reminds me of the image macro about using drive as your swap
I can see two issues here:
It’s not really a storageless computer. It’s using EFI as storage to build the ramdisk.
What happens if you need to change things because of a change of cloud account, change of cloud API etc etc
No computer is ever really storageless. Even the BIOS has to be stored somewhere. If you didn’t have any storage, you wouldn’t be able to load any code, and it would not be a computer, it would be a brick.
One of my duties in my first job was to build diskless computers. I’d record an EPROM in the station and boot from a Novell server.
the thing that gets me is that said dev tried it first with amazon S3 and it worked infinitely better there
Wow this sounds useless. Congratulations or whatever.
Netboot.xyz ?
y tho
“Primarily a silly pursuit”
Yeah, but it then goes on saying
“However, the dev also boasts that “the possibilities are endless” and would welcome any companies or individuals who wish to get in contact and discuss commercializing this project or something related to it.”
And that’s what I’m saying “y tho” to.
I mean, shit. If I did something stupid for fun and some idiot business major wants to pay me for an implementation, regardless of how useful It actually is, I’m not turning it down.
Good luck booting when Google nukes your account
Apple introduced the ability to boot from the internet, known as Internet Recovery, with the release of OS X Lion (10.7) in 2011. This feature allows Macs to connect to Apple’s servers and download a recovery system image to perform repairs, reinstall macOS, or restore from a Time Machine backup without needing a physical installation disk
This is different (and far less practical than Apple’s approach). This one doesn’t download the OS and store it, it pulls the files from Google drive every time they’re accessed, so it’s incredibly slow by comparison, but is technically running from the cloud. The Apple one downloads everything it needs and stores it, then pulls from that local copy.
What they both do is get a system into a desktop without a local disk or OS. I was adding to the discussion on the topic of “diskless booting”. Not comparing techs.
I was also adding to the discussion. You commented something it reminded you of, I commented the difference between the two. This may be an important point for those who are not familiar with either of these technologies.
I forgot people refuse to read the articles and visit the links on threads they comment and vote on.
Yeah apparently adding to the discussion is frowned upon here, my comment chain got derailed by a “joke” because I tried to differentiate between the cloud and a PC to have a discussion….
That’s not booting from the net that’s downloading an image and keeping it in RAM without sending any changed data back to the cloud, or needing to fetch anything once the image is downloaded.
So it’s a thin client remote booting extremely slowly over a really high latency connection. Cool, the 1980s called and they want their tech back.
However, the dev also boasts that “the possibilities are endless” and would welcome any companies or individuals who wish to get in contact and discuss commercializing this project or something related to it.
“We’re looking for dumb investors that don’t understand technology so we can sell them a bridge.”
Bro forgot to liberally sprinkle blockchain and AI dust on his project before offering it to investors
