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    It’s especially bad when it’s stuck like that for hours, and you have to make a gamble with a force restart.

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      Spinners must die. I don’t care if I don’t understand what exactly you’re doing, Windows, (I’d be surprised if you knew), but show me something, anything about the steps you’re currently doing, so I can guess if you’re doing something at all.

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        They could actually show you a command prompt / terminal readout, which shows warnings and errors when things just outright fail and the process is borked… but that would scare people, apparently.

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          LOL, yup! I was just going to reply that people find that scary, and then got to your last sentence. Idk why it scares people. I love seeing the output.

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            Even if it scares people, why not provide a goddamn toggle to enable it for the non-dipshits?

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              Because MSFT long, long ago abandoned the concept of giving users choice, or just in general not treating them like idiot babies.

              Brings me back to when I was contracting with them, same time Win 8 came out.

              MSFT does what they call ‘dogfooding’, ie, every worker is alpha/beta testing basically all MSFT software all the time.

              My team was managing SQL servers and running queries. SQL Manager, and a whole bunch of other shit completely broke when 8 came out.

              It initially did not even have the ability to go back to a Win7 style interface.

              They truly believed that limiting all office workers to a UI where they could have, at max, one pane on 1/3 of the screen and another pane on 2/3rds would be completely fine.

              We effectively could do no work for about 1/3 of our contract.

              Working at or for MSFT is a curse I would only wish upon my worst enemies.

              I actually had to quit another, earlier contract as my manager expected me to work overtime without pay. Before that, my one cool boss just showed me that I was being paid about 1/3 of what MSFT was paying the contracting firm for me.

              And that is to say nothing of the massive racism that all the American employees just looked the other way on: Pretty common for Indian employees of a higher caste to treat Indian contractors of a lower caste like total dogshit, and the line from HR was ‘its their culture!’.

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          Windows was designed with the average computer user in mind.

          The ones that don’t understand the difference between internet and wifi.

          But a button to show this CLI would be nice.

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    It must be a really deeply integrated part of the Windows kernel because it has never been able to show progress properly.

    Back in the days of floppy disks it always felt that actual copying started when the progress showed 100%.

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    The best is when this starts on battery power on an old machine. It’s always a race to see who wins.

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    While we’re on this topic, why does “update and shutdown” reboot the PC after updating? Just had this the other day. Was in my bed when I heard the PC running and when I got up to check, lo and behold, the login screen…

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    Last week I had the lovely experience of it also pushing a bios update that enabled bitlocker and locked me out of my drive. I had to completely wipe the laptop and lose the data.

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        Exactly. After reading through some forums it sounds like BitLocker may have been enabled at the factory initially but I had never noticed and since I didn’t set it up myself I had no key. So anyone reading this and running windows: right click your C: drive and see if BitLocker is enabled. If it’s enabled and you didn’t enable it or don’t have the key then disable the encryption. You can re-enable it afterwords and safely backup your new key so you never find yourself in this situation.

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      BIOS update bundled with OS software update is a shitty and scummy move, I hope you don’t have anything important in that drive

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      When I updated to Windows 11, it detected TPM 2.0 but failed to notice my drive had an MBR partition table and therefore couldn’t use Secure Boot. It happily updated anyway and rendered my drive unbootable.

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    The original Azure progress bar was Microsoft’s crowning masterpiece of progress bars. It would very slowly fill up, and then wrap around and start to fill up again. To be fair, all of the animations in that early KnockoutJs version of the Azure portal were just incredible to watch, and someone must have put a lot more effort into them than they did adding features.

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      To be fair, it’s really fun to work on that kind of animation. At least 50x more fun than debugging problems in your business logic.