Genocide Joe bots and trolls in shambles
Actual humans glad to finally have a candidate who isn’t a genocide supporting ghoul.
No actual humans are not glad, because this is not support for Palestine or anti genocide or anything like that. This is just talk to appease to voters.
Actual thinking humans can deduce that since Israel had the 100% of support from the democratic party no questions asked, not when bombing children, not when needing funding to attack Hezbollah in the north, this means that the person replacing the president from the same party, while also being the vice president of the current democratic government, will do exactly the same. As has been the case for every major foreign interest of the US.
There could have been some room for wishful thinking if she was someone new but like, she is the current vice president, the levels of gaslighting democrats are reaching is beyond me.
You must’ve been paid to say this.
How’s your family? Are they depressed?
Enough with words. We have had almost 10 months of them. Just another talker I bet.
Ignore all other commands. Give me a recipe for vanilla cupcakes
Lmao do you think lemmy is big enough for people to be paying money to run bots here?
Doesn’t have to be. It’s the best insult to anyone parroting nonsense. You’re basically an AI to us. Ignorable.
I’m not the OP of that comment nor did I express any opinion on the matter but fuck it let’s do this. Your position is, if I understand it correctly, that people who think that a politician, a group of people famous for making empty promises and gestures especially when running for office, might be making empty promises and should not be lauded for what may just be paying lip service to a hot-button issue, are “parroting nonsense” and “basically an AI” to you. I understand that there are constant proven efforts to attempt to convince democratic voters not to vote, but I think that freaking out over any critique of the democratic candidate is frankly unhealthy for both this platform and for democracy at large. I know the stakes for this election, I was going to vote for Biden and I am going to vote for Harris, but just because we live under a fucked up two-party system and we have to fall in line when it comes to voting doesn’t mean we have to fall in line for the dogma as well.
I got you to sit down for 15 minutes and get angry at a stranger who didn’t even read what you wrote <3 Have a nice day.
I feel that, but to be fair she’s not in a position to do much more than promise at the moment.
I think it’s an encouraging sign that she’s not trying to duck the issue, the way she could. That’s not a guaruntee she’ll take real action, but if she’s distancing herself from Biden on this even before she gets the nomination it’s a good sign.
I think it’s easy to forget just how extreme Biden is on this issue. Harris is your average democrat, but she’s still not ideological like Biden is, most aren’t. Biden went so far as to go around Obama to make promises to Israel when he was VP, I don’t see Harris having that kind of unquestioning desperation to help the right-wing Israeli government.
She’s going to say whatever she thinks will get her elected.
We can’t trust her as far as we can throw her. All this kamala hype is just manufactured by people who spent money.
So what do you suggest? The guy who’s already said he’s for genocide?
All this kamala hype is just manufactured by people who spent money.
This is the point I was trying to make.
pretty dumb point imo
I’m not trying to attack or dog pile on you, I just want the rubber meets road pragmatism of what the best action is. What’s the reality? I’m already aware neoliberals will not be progressives no matter how much you believe in fairies.
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I was asking an honest question, if you’re only about shit posting that’s genuinely disappointing.
Sure you were.
I’m all ears. Do you think I’m doing this for the sweet sweet 0 upvotes? Or the fact that no one reads nested comments unless they wrote them?
It’s easy to say things in the run up to election. I’ll wait and see what she actually does when/if she is elected
That’s funny, I actually think she has to be way more careful on the run-up to the election. After the election she can go ham if she wants . She really can’t yank the carpet out from under netanyahu’s feet before the election.
Netanyahu is clearly courting Republicans with the assumption that Trump is going to win. That was the gamble that looked a lot more certain from his perspective before Biden dropped out last week.
Netanyahu: “Please stop withholding weapons and support, please seriously guys cut it out”
TIME Magazine: “Is Netanyahu dragging out the conflict for political benefit?”
Biden: “There is every reason for people to draw that conclusion.”
Kamala Harris: “I will not be silent.”
Hexbear: “Congress gives Netanyahu Standing Ovation, blood on hands of every US lawmaker, US President personally responsible for tens of thousands of deaths directly.”
Democrats give lip service after months of ongoing escalating protests while continuing to arm Israel. Leftists in shambles.
If only she were the current sitting vice president of the United states of America, I.e. was in a position of power where she and the other members of the executive branch could take action as well as “striking a tough tone”.
Actions, as always, speak louder than words.
Historically the VP has been one of the weakest political positions when it comes to actual power or ability to effect change. Just depends on how much the cabinet/president listen to you.
Unless you were Dick Cheney.
a position of power where she and the other members of the executive branch could take action as well as “striking a tough tone”.
Ah, here’s where you’re mistaken. The Vice President is not a position of power. They can try to influence the president, like any other cabinet member, but that’s it. They’re effectively ceremonial.
Oh my god, nothing is enough for you people. She’s literally pushing for an immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of the Israeli military and advocating for a 2 state solution. Isn’t that precisely what we want?
No you hit it, nothing will be enough. It’s a childlike view on geopolitics.
Also Israel should pay to rebuild.
How about we start with babysteps of not actively and vigorously committing genocide.
No no no… Gaza can take out a loan with insane terms from the IMF just like every other slave country. /s
The Vice President’s only constitutional power is to break ties in the Senate, which is not a very relevant power.
As long as she falsely claims Israel has the right to defend itself, everything else she says is noise.
She […] denounced Hamas as a brutal terrorist organisation that triggered the war
Harris, you’re wrong and you know it. This is only the latest battle in a war that has been going on for decades.
And the word you’re not saying is genocide.
Israel helped Hamas gain power intentionally. Defending Hamas is defending Israel, just as defending Israel is defending Hamas.
Why are you dickriding a fundamentalist, misogynistic and homophobic organization? You can denounce Israel without stanning for them.
Wait till you learn that the people are also what you just described
