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I take your point, and i also don’t eat pork. Not because I know a pig, but because of the terrible conditions most pigs are farmed under, and because all pork is imported here.
For me, loving an animal before you kill it is a part of lift. When I was a child, we often took rejected lambs into the house to bottle feed them. They become pets and then they became supper.
And I’d much rather that then only know meat as something you collect at the super market. Even though it would be more comfortable, the disconnect between meat and living creatures that modern people have often sickens me. So I’d much rather eat your neighbours pig than a factory framed one.
My point thought, is that no one gets outraged, justifys harassing people and wished death upon their entire family and country for eating pigs. So in reality, it’s not about intelligence and social behaviour. It’s about your culture being right and everyone else being wrong.
is that no one gets outraged, justifys harassing people and wished death upon their entire family and country for eating pigs.
You uh… wanna bet about that one?
Values a culture finds truly abhorrent are combated. You’re using the same arguments people use to defend confederate monuments, or anti-LGBT laws. It’s tragic that your traditions cause harm, but just because they’re traditional and your culture doesn’t mean they’re not disgustingly cruel.
Yeah, we need to either stop or wildly reform factory farming. No argument there. But just because you think it’s cultural imperialism doesn’t make it reasonable to torture other creatures to death.
The big difference here is that, while I will absolutely admit to and work damn hard to change my own culture, you can’t even admit the cruelty inherent to your own traditions. My tribe used to hunt whales. We saw the barbarity of it. We stopped. Why are you special?
For a minute I thought you might be reasonable, that’s why I was willing to engage with you, but now I see that your see just more well spoken than the other commenters. We don’t have to agree, but we can’t have a dialog when you’re just being argumentative and contrary.
I have never said that tradition as a reason for anything. Not here, nor ever. In fact, our traditions have all been continually modified to grow with our values. That’s why they prevail.
The ironic thing is that you compare me to conservative oppressors when you act exactly like an old bigot who is being confronted with values differing form their own.
I thought we were talking about one food source over another but then you go off about cruelty and torture. That’s just ignorant.
And then now you’re going to play the indigenous card? If you saw the barbarity why are there so many who still haven’t? Are the just all savages?
Your are not better than your ancestors, brother. You were just colonized.
I take your point, and i also don’t eat pork. Not because I know a pig, but because of the terrible conditions most pigs are farmed under, and because all pork is imported here.
For me, loving an animal before you kill it is a part of lift. When I was a child, we often took rejected lambs into the house to bottle feed them. They become pets and then they became supper.
And I’d much rather that then only know meat as something you collect at the super market. Even though it would be more comfortable, the disconnect between meat and living creatures that modern people have often sickens me. So I’d much rather eat your neighbours pig than a factory framed one.
My point thought, is that no one gets outraged, justifys harassing people and wished death upon their entire family and country for eating pigs. So in reality, it’s not about intelligence and social behaviour. It’s about your culture being right and everyone else being wrong.
You uh… wanna bet about that one?
Values a culture finds truly abhorrent are combated. You’re using the same arguments people use to defend confederate monuments, or anti-LGBT laws. It’s tragic that your traditions cause harm, but just because they’re traditional and your culture doesn’t mean they’re not disgustingly cruel.
Yeah, we need to either stop or wildly reform factory farming. No argument there. But just because you think it’s cultural imperialism doesn’t make it reasonable to torture other creatures to death.
The big difference here is that, while I will absolutely admit to and work damn hard to change my own culture, you can’t even admit the cruelty inherent to your own traditions. My tribe used to hunt whales. We saw the barbarity of it. We stopped. Why are you special?
For a minute I thought you might be reasonable, that’s why I was willing to engage with you, but now I see that your see just more well spoken than the other commenters. We don’t have to agree, but we can’t have a dialog when you’re just being argumentative and contrary.
I have never said that tradition as a reason for anything. Not here, nor ever. In fact, our traditions have all been continually modified to grow with our values. That’s why they prevail. The ironic thing is that you compare me to conservative oppressors when you act exactly like an old bigot who is being confronted with values differing form their own.
I thought we were talking about one food source over another but then you go off about cruelty and torture. That’s just ignorant.
And then now you’re going to play the indigenous card? If you saw the barbarity why are there so many who still haven’t? Are the just all savages?
Your are not better than your ancestors, brother. You were just colonized.