• greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Move onto land that isn’t yours

    Cause the people to fight back

    Hide as others battle in a war for you

    Get mad when policy changes and you have to fight

    • LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world
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      Except that’s literally not at all what happened. There was never any sovereign nation called Palestine prior to the end of the British Mandate of Palestine. Before that it was ruled by the Ottomans. And the name Palestine was originally given to the region by the Romans when they ruled the region to spite the Jews by naming their promised land and ancestral homeland after their historical enemies, the Phillistines and the name just stuck.

      During all of those periods both Arabs and Jews lived in that region. When the British Mandate of Palestine ended there was a war between the Jews and the Arabs and the Jews won as they did time and time again despite the Arabs being the aggressors the vast majority of the time. This idea that a nation called Palestine existed prior to the end of the British Mandate or that there’s an ethnicity of people called Palestinians that aren’t just garden variety Arabs is completely false and used as propaganda. The land these people claim as theirs never belonged to them nor did they ever rule it before and they lost all the wars they started to attempt to claim it.

      The Arabs don’t get to fuck around and find out and then play the victims.

      • Match!!@pawb.social
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        never any sovereign nation called Palestine prior to the end of the British Mandate of Palestine

        free Philistine then idgaf

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      Tbf most of them have lived there for many generations, it’s not as if they consciously chose to move there just to spite the previous residents. But I do agree they shouldn’t be treated specially for their religious beliefs, and that no one should be forcefully crafted even.

      • greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        No.

        The vast majority of the settlements have been built either entirely or partially on private Palestinian land.

        More than 700,000 settlers – 10 percent of Israel’s nearly 7 million population – now live in 150 settlements and 128 outposts dotting the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem.

        A settlement is authorised by the Israeli government while an outpost is built without government authorisation. Outposts can range from a small shanty of a few people to a community of up to 400 people.

        Some of the settlers move to the occupied territories for religious reasons while others are drawn by a relatively lower cost of living and financial incentives offered by the government. Ultraorthodox Jews form one-third of all settlers.

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          Ok, so a third of settlers are Ultra orthodox. That means the majority, two thirds, aren’t, and the statistics for what percentage of ultra orthodox Jews are settlers are still not present in this conversation. Just to make it clear, there are many legitimate reasons to hate Ultra orthodox Judaism. Just trying to make sure it’s for the right reasons and not a scarecrow.

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              I didn’t say I hated anyone either. I hate the ideology of Ultra orthodox Judaism, not any individual person. Mostly for the harm it causes to people and animals, but also because it isn’t true.

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    Netanyahu’s going to need a much bigger military for whoever he goes to war with next. Because they’ll have an actual trained military force to go up against.

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      You clearly don’t remember who won every Arab-Israeli war fought between Israel and multiple Arab countries’ militaries at once.

      But yeah go ahead and cheer on Iran, a known state sponsor of terrorism.