• JDPoZ@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Bungie hasn’t made a good game since 2010, they deserve it.

    No they don’t, you ghoul.

    You don’t get hired at Bungie by being a shitty game dev.

    You make shitty games or get fired by having shitty management or a parent company run by a shitty exec.

    Shit like this is what is making the game industry suck and why you are seeing more bugs and more garbage and as long as companies fire people after every project, and no one sticks around, it’s likely to just keep worsening things.

    Do you know why Elden Ring, Mario, and Zelda games are good?

    It’s because the devs at Nintendo and From Software have people in charge who have been making games for like 30 goddamn years and have become literal masters of their craft.

    Meanwhile, all the companies making shitty games are firing people as soon as their game ships and chasing trends instead of focusing on fundamentals of good game mechanics and gameplay design.

    …And so then the next quarter when they need more warm bodies to ship something, they basically have to hire a bunch of 20-something fresh graduates who generally have no idea what they’re doing, pay them next to nothing, give them unrealistic deadlines, crunch the shit out of them, burn them out, and then repeat the cycle.

    That’s at least one of the reasons why even industry celebrities like Cliff Blezinski got out of making games.

    Not a fan of Joe Rogan, but go watch John Carmack - one of the singular greatest programmers of the last 40 years and basically also one of the creators of the FPS - tell Rogan that game dev is harder and less secure and pays less than Facebook.

    It’s why most game studios’ average tenure is around 5 years… and why a lot of people (myself included) left… because the pay and job stability is better in adjacent careers like just general software dev.

    These people are trying to make games that they are passionate about. No game dev gets into it to make money or micro transactions… especially not someone who would want to work for a studio that once crafted flagship titles like Bungie or Blizzard or any of the other big name studios.

    People telling game devs that they “should lose their jobs” really need to redirect their ire toward the private equity bean-counting suits - who are making off like bandits while absolutely gutting the future of an industry I fucking guarantee is having its legs cut out from under it by shit like this.

    Edit : Holy shit some of the absolute chirplords in the thread below really make me happy I got out of making games. To anyone still soldiering on in the trench that is video game dev work, I salute you… I really wish you had the fortitude to still do it, but I’m a mere mortal. Here’s to hoping you guys are able to get what you need and that the suits just get out of the way.

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      3 months ago

      Also Destiny was a damn good game, with great map design, enemy design, and world building. I don’t know how you blame the developers for the clearly top level decisions to turn the game into a content treadmill where everything was undeveloped and disposable.

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      Bungie shits in your mouth, consistently, over the course of D1’s life cycle.

      “No it’s not Bungie, it’s Activision!”

      Bungie splits from Activision in D2

      Proceeds to release Shadowkeep

      Crickets

      Fast forward to Lightfall.

      “Noooo, it’s Sony! Sony is at fault!”

      God damn, the excuses Destiny players make for what is a shit company will never cease to amuse me. Idk what Bungie’s collective cum tastes like but it must be fucking ambrosia considering the lengths the community goes to defend them. That corpo-speak in the TWABs is puttin’ in work!

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          3 months ago

          you’re obviously someone who is completely and willfully ignorant to what goes into game development

          Icing on the cake? Shadowkeep is the first expansion dropped by Bungie for d2 without Activision. It is also widely acknowledged as the worst expansion. Congratulations, you’ve written an essay and proven you just shouldn’t be weighing in on this. At all.

          The more words you use in your next essay won’t help, you don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s almost like you got an AI to spit this out with how much cherrypicking you do. What’s the term for a sealion that weighs in on something they know nothing about?

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                  No I just don’t read what you’re saying, mainly because I’ve got better things to do with my time than to read a nobody bloviate about something they don’t understand. Your experience doesn’t matter, do you know why?

                  I’ve refuted your claim that it’s somehow all the publishers fault. You, for some reason, think that Bungie releasing a terrible expansion the first time they’re free from a publisher somehow doesn’t obliterate your argument.

                  You’re absolutely sealioning btw, you can keep the corpo speak to yourself. I’m not reading it, because it’s just a waste of my time. There are plenty of devs to defend, Bungie is not one of them.