I believe in Night-watchman state and I think that any country currently would benefit massively from supporting liberal values.

But I also wonder, what did liberals do to deserve all the hate they get online?

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    The confusing thing for those of us not from the US is that Americans use “liberal” when they’re often referring to people who are socialist.

    It doesn’t really make any sense.

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      We are binary. We are a coin with liberal on one side and conservative on the other. Which is handy because the more people define all the specifics of liberal, neoliberal, socialist, communist, progressive, and whatnot, the less I’m able to identify with any of them.

      I am part of the union of disparate philosophies that does not want Trump. That’s a bit of a mouthful, though.

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    They don’t, but since liberalism is the default supporters of liberalism don’t feel the need to be vocal about it; whereas those bucking the status quo, both progressives and regressives, feel the need to make their perspectives heard.

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    How are we defining liberal here? I wouldn’t consider ‘centrists’ to be liberal, personally, but here in America most people think of them that way.

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      I think, to further emphasize your point, whoever asks must also define what constitutes center.

      In my own country I’d be a moderate centrist with anarchist leanings. In the US I’d be extreme left, liberal, and on NSAs watch list.

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    If you post anything vaguely political online you’ll get lots of people showing up and telling you that your views are wrong. I’d be careful of confirmation bias if you think it’s only one side getting all the hate.

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    Because most liberals don’t consistently apply their own principles. A principle that liberals are inconsistent with is the juridical principle of imputation, the norm of legal and de facto responsibility matching. They ignore this norm’s routine violation in the capitalist firm. Here, despite the workers joint de facto responsibility for production, the employer is solely legally responsible for 100% of the positive and negative results of production while workers as employees get 0%

    @asklemmy

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    Liberal Americans are central right conservatives in most of the rest of the workd.

    It can lead to confusion in discussions with international audiences. I don’t support most of what the Democrats stand for or do, the GOP is just batshit crazy of course.

    As an aethiest anarchistic, I’m used to wathing with bemusement from the outside anyway.

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    Love “I’m a liberal” by Phill Ochs does a great job expressing the critics by the left.

    Then you have neoliberal ideas which is basically capitalism with regulations, subsidies, and safety nets. Which fiscal conservatives hate because they cost money and hurt their investments.

    Online people hate on them because its the status quo and things suck so they get the blame. Nvm the mountain of obstacles opents of the philosophy put up against it as well.

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    Thats mostly a lemmy thing tbh. Lemmy is weird, and needs a fresh dose of normality.

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        Just look around, look at people and you will notice a lot of that kind of people, people who complain about everything, they have a freaking big ego like if they were the main character of a movie, they like to victimize themselves for everything(usually they identify themselves as being mentally ill) and they procrastinate all the time. Look at the social environment and you will identify a lot of people of that kind.

        Edit: Elon Musk?