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I think we can just assume by now that, if there’s any chance there’s would be some momentum behind a protest that could be disruptive to our society, the Kremlin troll factories are going to do their best to rile them up. I suspect things like the fascist protests in the UK and the trucker protests throughout Europe to have been heavily promoted by them to try to weaken and sow dissent in our cultures, Kremlin & China have troll factories churning for this sort of thing 24/7. In Spanish speaking social networks, the push to shove propaganda supporting Maduro in Venezuela has been unreal.
Is it really transphobia if no trans athletes were involved? Or rather plain old misogyny?
The secret is, it is all transphobia, misogyny and racism
The root of it is transphobia because before the Olympics started, they predicted that because trans athletes are allowed like they have been for over 20 years, they’ll dominate every event despite that not happening before and nothing having changed recently. Since that didn’t happen, because admitting that they were wrong is very clearly not an option, they accuse cis athletes that they deem not sufficiently feminine of being trans. People who don’t really follow what’s going on but take the right wing position by default believe them, and it reinforces their biases, so it works as propaganda despite a complete lack of basis in reality.
They couldn’t find any trans people to be mad at so they made them up, to the detriment of two cis athletes. So, both.
It’s a side effect of transphobia- cis women who don’t look “feminine” enough getting attacked for not being women.
Transmisogyny is its own goddamn entire ass terrible thing, and a really useful concept for understanding all kinds of shit in The Discourse.
Is it really transphobia if no trans athletes were involved?
Is it a Satanic Panic if Satan doesn’t really exist?
IDK but maybe it’s just me who thinks she definitely doesn’t look like a woman.
The question that everyone’s skipping over here to shout at you is this: In your conception, what does a woman look like? You must have a description ready to hand if you’re able to look at this athlete and say “that’s not it”.
Maybe I don’t know how women looks but I know how testosterone looks. And definetly she have a lot of it.
Well. I tried. That’s not really a good faith response to my question. If you’re not here to talk, you’re here to try and force people to listen. ‘Cept that doesn’t work so hot on the internet 🤣
See ya, Noisy.
Maybe the concept of men and women can be a social construct but if someone do too much testosterone they will always look like someone who done too much testosterone… it’s just science.
Are you claiming Khelif was doping with testosterone? Because no one official has made such an accusation.
Think about it, maybe she is doing testosterone as a cheating method thinking “with all this stuff of LGBT+ hype going no problem”
As a dude who unironically wrote the words “do too much testosterone”, I wouldn’t be invoking science if I were you 🤣🤣🤣
Ok then explain me what doing too much testosterone do to someone’s body?
See, this isn’t how this works. You came in and made a claim. You said the athlete didn’t look like a woman. I asked you what you thought a woman looks like. You shifted the goal posts and said “nah, let’s talk about what testosterone does to the body”. Next you’ll be asking me to prove some bassackward negative I never introduced. I know how this plays out and it’s boring.
I’m not following you down this rabbit hole. This is goodbye, my dude.
In women, it helps with fertility on in vitro treatments. It’s a necessary hormone for everybody.
Women have testosterone. Some more, some less. Deal with it.
Khelif was not disqualified by the IBA because of testosterone. They will not say what test she took, they will not say who administered it, they will not say the results, but they will say she wasn’t tested for testosterone.
Does that not strike you as odd?
A woman is a featherless biped.
Please NSFW that, I don’t want to be the creep looking at naked women at work.
So what, are you defining what a woman is for the rest of the world or what? Why is it so important if you personally think someone looks like a woman or not?
If your world view requires you to proactively hate people for disagreeing with it, as much as is happening here, you might want to reconsider your beliefs.
Nah I’m just one human but I’m expressing at least for me she didn’t look like a woman but maybe it’s just me.
Nobody fucking asked you.
This community when the far-right in the west does something horrible: “I sleep”
This community as soon as there’s the slightest evidence linking it to Russia: “Real shit”
Fuck Putin don’t get me wrong, but take some perspective and reflect on the failures of your countries and your systems
The fuck you on about?
Trump and Nazis are being bashed all day every day on here.
I beg you browse through the currently popular posts, took me quite a bit of scrolling to find one post about the far right in England, and that’s after 5 posts attacking Russia (which, again, fair enough)
Hah, go figure. Russia’s connected to every right wing moral panic, it seems. From trump to migrants to using gender for the purpose of discrediting people of color. It’s always that idiot in Moscow.
Russia deserves to be booted from the internet at this point. A glorified gas station, home to massive numbers of bots and agitators, allowed to undermine democracies worldwide. Cut the cables. (Install a quick-disconnect? It’s like a series of pipes, right? /s)
Then we need to deal with poorly moderated sites (like Elon’s) that encourage dis/misinfo and hate to spread, under the guise of “freeze peach”.
It is already, from both sides. There’s massive censorship from the inside, with a killswitch already in place waiting for a moment to actually disconnect Russia from the global internet. As well as sanctions and embargoes from every other site, no matter if they’re commercial or not, just because admins couldn’t be bothered implementing anything better than blocking the entire Russian IP range.
Fuck you for saying this, though. Don’t call to make the lives of anti-war people harder than it already is, you’d just be throwing more fuel into the fire by proving the Russian propaganda to be true.
Damn Russian government big mad huh?
