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That point of sale system seemed to handle this perfectly.
Luckily they had lizards in stock.
Yeah, that’s a huge success. Sure beats my spaghetti
A QA engineer walks into a bar and asks where the bathroom is. The bar bursts into flames. The product owner says that the bar can be shipped anyway.
As a PO I’m usually asking QA for some tests that actually show the product meets the requirements
There might be 50 pages proving it rejects bad input, and nothing showing it can successfully handle a perfectly correct case. We seem bad at training testers.
That sounds strange. I cannot comment on your particular case without seeing the test artifacts.
Generally speaking, there is nothing wrong with tests that ensure bad input doesn’t break the system, as this can easily lead to incorrect system states, damage to the environment, loss of data, money, reputation, and even lives - although most systems are not critical enough to threaten lives.
You wouldn’t need QAs if you only needed to validate that the product meets the requirements. In a typical company, many people are involved in that process. This includes the developer who wrote the code, the developer who reviewed it, and the people who conduct acceptance testing, among others. If your developers produce code that doesn’t meet the requirements, you’re in trouble.
I’m not saying that QA shouldn’t validate whether the system meets the requirements, but you don’t want them to do just that.
If they didn’t properly test validation I would complain about that, what that regularly miss is a test showing correct function for each major use case
So it sounds like you need to use the words to tell them, do you know testing types and strategies so you can tell them which to employ?
Doesn’t sound too weird to me. In my experience, devs always focus too much on positive / correct inputs, as they want things to work. Which is why you need testers that will catch all the weird crazy ways people can break things. Testers shouldn’t even see the code of it can’t handle nominal cases.
The problem is that testers are competent, often intelligent individuals. Users, not so much.
“will not fix”
I still fondly remember the QA guy on the first consumer electronics project I worked on. He didn’t do scripting or test harnesses or dependency injection, he used the product and filed good bugs telling us what would fuck up our customer’s expectations.
A good QA person helps with product design too if you let them.
Andy B, I’d work with you again in a second.
Andy B, - good first name for a tester
He was exactly the kind of guy who doesn’t get hired any more because companies “know better”.
And stuff gets crappier every year somehow.
A or B lol
Orders a
Orders a beer"; DROP TABLE beverages; –
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Some plans less so than others.
Also, I like this framing of users as the enemy. Matches my experience, really.
Orders a WWWWWWWWWWWW
Orders a
I enjoyed this animation of the meme in the OP.
I walk in and order 257 beers.
Ninety-nine billion, nine hundred ninety-nine million, nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall,
Ninety-nine billion, nine hundred ninety-nine million, nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine bottles of beer,
You take one down, pass it around,
Ninety-nine billion, nine hundred ninety-nine million, nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-eight bottles of beer on the wall.
Unfortunately the bar was built on long int so it overflowed 23 times and landed on about 1.2 billion.
One billion, two-hundred fifteen million, seven-hundred fifty-two thousand, two-hundred-something bottles of beer on the wall, one billion, two-hundred fifteen million, seven-hundred fifty-two thousand, two-hundred-something bottles of beer! Take one down, pass it around…
One less bottle of beer on the wall :)
I wonder what would happen if it was a singed long, and it landed somewhere in the negatives after overflowing multiple times?
Negative forty-eight thousand, six hundred thirty-three bottles of beer on the wall,
Negative forty-eight thousand, six hundred thirty-three bottles of beer
You take one down, pass it around,
Negative forty-eight thousand, six hundred thirty-four bottles of beer on the wall
Well, silly me, I should have specified that I did my calculation with signed long, though it shouldn’t affect the outcome much given my rounding at the hundreds.
I like the idea of beer debt to the wall, though!
I once wrote a Python script that implemented this song, I could probably abuse that old program to make this nonsense happen.
Should have tested for #^%_@()
Do they mean something or they are just random punctuations
Random alphanumeric.
Oh! This was a good one! I remember reading this on Bash.org. ahh, thanks for the reminder.
