TL;DR

  • Efforts like Graphene OS face increasing pressure from apps that refuse to run on non-standard Android.
  • The custom ROM project characterizes Google’s approach to device attestation as incomplete and flawed.
  • Graphene OS is prepared to take legal action if Google won’t let it pass Play Integrity checks.
  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    yeah. like my manufacturers’ 3-year-old, full-o-spyware ROM is more secure than latest lineage.

    they just want control, not security.

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      5 months ago

      graphene sandboxes Google services so they don’t run as root on your device. I haven’t encountered an app I can’t get running on graphene yet and having Google play installed as non root is a far sight better than stock.

      my biggest problem with lineage was compatibility with banking apps so I reluctantly switched but graphene is a solid choice in operating system for privacy and security.

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          5 months ago

          not really. after enabling oem unlocking in developer options you just boot it while holding one of the volume buttons and you’re able to unlock the bootloader.

          root is not typically available and you don’t need it for most uses besides development, but even then, I would recommend not using a phone you daily for that.

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            5 months ago

            sure, but unrooted custom roms also trip the protections.

            root can sometimes be used to mask that.

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              5 months ago

              you’re already over my head but you can talk to the devs. they have a matrix chat they link on their site

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        5 months ago

        Graphene is great, but I’m currently on a Xiaomi phone so I can’t run most ROMs, I’ll likely run derpfest when I get the bootloader unlocked

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            5 months ago

            I haven’t tried it yet, but it seems to have a lot of pixel features ported, I realized crDroid supports my phone so I might try that

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        5 months ago

        thats what i do atm, but its a shitty solution when i have a perfectly good phone.

        the irony is, my second vanking phone is probably less secure, because its stuck in an ancient version of android.

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          5 months ago

          Not disagreeing I was genuinely asking.

          For me it wouldnt be too inconvenient but I barely use banks so my perspective is atypical

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              5 months ago

              Dont know what you mean sorry

              I did pull $600 out my sock at the best buy to buy my pixel recently tho lol

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            5 months ago

            I do basically that, but with aSamsung tablet, then my phone can be for phone things, calls, messages, emails. Then if I’m out and about and need to check my bank, mobile hotspot to my phone and go from there.

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      5 months ago

      same bs with apps not running jidt because root or apps not being visible in playstore because of it. Netflix isn’t even showing up as existing in playstore just because i have root. it’s nuts. and there are tons of apps like this.

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        5 months ago

        Netflix and their DRM is so extremely stupid it’s incomprehensible. It only hurts normal users while the rippers have no issues getting the content.