patreon app store.
i’m so glad i’m on android
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Feels good to be on graphene (and Debian)
Apple and Google stores are classic rent seeker behavior.
Deny them profit.
You don’t have to use the Google store though.
Apple forces you to the their app store, and they have a huge list of requirements they impose on apps to which dicks around developers
Yeah, you don’t have to, but then nobody is getting your app. Most people don’t have other stores and will look at you weird if you mention side loading. Samsung/Galaxy Store maybe, but even Samsung users mostly don’t use it.
So technically your don’t have to use it and your app is obtainable without it, but If you want to actually reach some users, you have to be on Google Play.
Google search was just declared a monopoly, when there are obviously other searched engines anyone can use. If that’s a monopoly then Google Play is a bigger monopoly.
This couldn’t have come at a worse time, given their DOJ suit.
The fee will only apply to memberships purchased on Patreon’s iOS app starting November 4th, 2024.
Good, I hope they shed light on Apple’s shitfuckery.
Yeah this is well overdue
Yeah, I actually think this policy is 100% correct and, if more services did this instead of eating the costs, we could have a real discussion about the harm caused by arbitrary fees.
It will likely result in Apple seeking a special deal with Patreon to avoid this mess though. It’s really not a good look for Apple especially as they cater themselves to the creatives market.
they cater themselves to the creatives market
LOL only in advertising.
I mean, sure, but this counteracts all that money they spend when most artists make their money on Patreon or similar (if they make any money at all, frankly.)
Until recently, apps were not even allowed to charge less outside their apps than on the app store or to link to outside stores.
We should thank the European Union for that.
The EU (where I live) is a bureaucracy nightmare sometimes, and is often far too removed from citizens. It has a gazillion problems, but as far as data protections and customer rights it does some things half right.
I live in the EU and I’m happy we have it, because otherwise we wouldn’t have many consumer protection laws (either because my government is stupid or because we wouldn’t have enough leverage as a single country).
Many things we now take for granted are only possible thanks to the EU, like the 2-years warranty on electronic/household products.
Thanks European Union
They were allowed to charge less, just not mention or link to it in any way. Proton has been doing it for a while that the Apple in-app purchases are roughly 30% higher.
Is apple still blocking apps from telling users they can subscribe outside of the app store?
I.e A message on check out that says “You can save 30% if you subscribe directly the website. Apple charges a 30% processing fee for using Apple subscriptions, please just subscribe on the website.”
The oportunity was there, so I took it. What else would I link to? Actual pateron?
I’m okay with paying 30% where the return on investment is worth it. Both the Appstore and Google Play do literally nothing for you, except distribution. These really don’t deserve to take such a big cut, and I don’t really want to hear any more excuses in their favor
Both the Appstore and Google Play do literally nothing for you, except distribution.
I mean distribution is not “nothing”. They have to maintain the app store, and process payments, and filter (most) malicious software.
It’s just not worth anywhere near 30%, not to mention the flurry of ads all over the place.
At least with Android it’s completely possible to have a third-party app or app store and charge using their own payment processes without ever touching the Google Play store.
Apple is a whole other level of control and anti-competitiveness, and they’ve been profiting off of it for decades with no intervention in sight.
30% is more or less the industry standard. Whether it’s a physical store or an online store. They almost all take a 30% cut.
I know and I don’t give a shit. It’s absurd, I don’t care who does it. Wanna take a guess at how many billions Apple has taken out of the pockets of developers for the privilege of writing and developing software for their hardware?
Dunno about Apple but Google does a very bad job of monitoring the Play Store. Outright malicious apps are one thing and deceiving apps are other. Latter is a very big problem. Low quality apps minced with in app purchases/subscriptions that are carbon copies of each other.
Google arguably does a worse job of curating the Play Store (sponsored results) and has a non existent support.
