• fluxion@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Israel doesn’t seem particularly motivated to agree to a ceasefire since we keep guaranteeing unlimited support for their war mongering. Last time we were “close” they assassinated the leader of Hamas to kick off the peace process

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      1 month ago

      Yeah. To elaborate on this, I can’t really say where Hamas is on a ceasefire, because they’ve got new leadership. But I can say that Netanyahu and his cabinet have pretty much said that they’ll only agree to a ceasefire on the condition that every member of Hamas turns themselves in the nearest IDF soldier for a summary execution. They’ve firmly rejected Biden’s ceasefire proposal, and then whipped out their dicks and peed on it.

      Biden could secure Israel’s cooperation if he wanted to. They are completely dependent on us. But unless the breakthrough that Biden is thinking of is him remember that and then telling Bibi, I don’t see what else changes. Netanyahu has firmly rejected this proposal over and over and over and made no indication that he’s moved at all on this.

      Also, if he did there is no real guarantee that Hamas will go along with it. They expressed willingness before… but that was under very different circumstances, under a totally different leader.

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        1 month ago

        It was not biden proposal if i recall correctly. It was Israel proposal that they didn’t expect hamas to agree to and they back tracked. Hamas just announced they agree to it again, and to the UN ceasefire call to vaccinate kids.

        The zaionst state will attempt to pre-long this and kill at least 50 civilian a day and destroy more homes.

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    1 month ago

    You’ve gotta reset the relationship with Israel, or this headline is going to start working against you if you are the Biden (and Harris) administration.

    Its obvious to me that they are using this as a chip against the chances of a Democrat being elected in 2024. So there are no options left for the administration if they keep treating Israel as if they are engaging in good faith.

    Kamala saw a bump specifically because she represents an opportunity for a new way of things. Her MI/ WI chances are basically hinging on this specific issues. The Administration can either withhold arms from Israel (as MANY administrations have done REPEATEDLY in the past) or hand the election to Trump.