• moe90@feddit.nlOP
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    1 month ago

    Sorry for disappoint you. But, normies don’t know what is Linux about? hell even higher than average tech-savvy people know little bit Ubuntu as a Linux.

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      1 month ago

      That would be me.

      Tried Ubuntu 15 years ago, but couldn’t because Nvidia driver issues, and haven’t tried again

      Look, dudes, I’m bootstrapping a small business while trying to manage ADHD. I can barely get two hours of admin work done in an eight hour day. I just need things to work. I’d love to walk away from Windows but I don’t have the mental bandwidth for that shit

      And even if I did, my wife and I share a gaming computer/media center. There’s nothing like having her call me in the middle of a workday because my VPN is keeping her from logging into PBS so that she can watch Grantchester. Imagine the headaches if I installed a new OS.

      Much like improving my physical fitness, I have the desire, but not the will

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        1 month ago

        I just setup an old friend couple new computer with Windows. We lost a full day as the HP printer didn’t work (yet worked via Android and my linux laptop without installing absolutely anything), Outlook doesn’t save passwords (so we moved to Thunderbird), chrome is a mess (so we moved to Firefox + unlock origin), Microsoft excel is incredibly expensive and refused to open the only spreadsheet they needed (so me moved to libreoffice)…

        A fucking nightmare. And everything worked fine with FOSS or on my laptop.

        Just stay away from nvidia on Linux and you are golden.

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          1 month ago

          Just stay away from nvidia on Linux and you are golden.

          I’m sorry but this is the kind of condescending bullshit that pushes me away from Linux

          I got a 3070TI for half off MSRP for open box in the middle of the crypto bubble, and I’m not buying another GPU until I absolutely have to.

          You want more people to embrace Linux? Make it work on startup without jumping through a bunch of hoops, on the hardware we already own.

          Your lived experience with Windows is yours, and I’m glad you have a system that works for you. I don’t have the time or mental energy to learn, not just a new OS, but also all of the bugs that go with it.

          Look, I get it. I’m putting my apprentice in my old work van, and as I’m looking at the old heap I’m remembering all the little quirks it has that I’ve developed blind spots for. Blind spots they don’t have. Quirks that are actually problems. I know there are problems with windows that I ignore because I know how to work around them. I know the workarounds because I’ve been using Windows since 3.11. I didn’t have that experience with Linux, and neither does my wife. A woman who once nearly bricked our computer falling for an Indian call center scam.

          When this rig bites the dust, I’ll probably build a Linux gaming box and just tell her to get used to the OS. For now, we’re using Windows

          Also HP is shit and I’d gladly put any HP exec in the hospital if I met them

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            1 month ago

            I honestly never had any problems with my nvidia cards on my Linux systems, and these are my daily drivers. I have 1 laptop that only has Windows and the other 6 computers here don’t. 3 of them are equipped with Nvidia GPUs and work without a single thing ever going wrong with them in that regard.

            People who keep perpetuating these ideas that Nvidia = trouble don’t seem to understand that it’s scaring people from trying it out.

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          1 month ago

          I’m AMD, but I heard Nvidia is much better now, and open source drivers are coming soon I believe. That should make the GPU excuse another dead one, along with the gaming one. There’s not going to be many good excuses left.

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          1 month ago

          Most distros work fine with Nvidia these days. The ones that don’t are more the exception.

    • iorale@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 month ago

      Installation and setup of a windows OS with programs the user wants takes hours.
      Installation and setup of linux with programs… Days or weeks due to some obscure thing that didn’t work and nobody seems to know about or because the “configuration” file has many options but it requires you already knowing what you want and what it does (looking at you mpv).

      I’m still fiddling with mine due to minor but important problems, I can’t picture the people I know even attempting to figure out linux.

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        1 month ago

        Does it take longer? It almost always just works for me. I tell my package manager to install the package I want and then it’s taken care of, and updates are automatically managed. There’s no hunting around different websites for the installer and then going to the website to update every time the application launcher detects an update when it runs, which is the opposite of when I want to update it.

        I don’t know what issues you’re facing, so I can’t comment on it directly. I’ve installed three different distributions withing the past 1.5 years, all which use different package mangers. Each one was faster than settings things up in Windows. The difference is my Windows install I installed a ton of things over time, most of which I wanted immediately when swapping. I don’t know how long it took in total for Windows, but I promise it was significantly longer.

        Also the distro I’m using now, Garuda, has a tool to install a bunch of common applications that runs at start. You just tick the ones you want and it handles the rest. A lot of distros have something similar, which is really fast.

    • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today
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      1 month ago

      Just gotta spread the word. I got two people to switch from Windows to Linux recently. When they heard about an alternative they got very interested and jumped on the opportunity. People want an alternative, but like you say they don’t know one exists, so we need to keep spreading the word of Linux.

      PS. They both are enjoying the ad free experience and don’t have any big issues or problems with Linux. Just learning pains