Some new Ukrainian soldiers refuse to fire at the enemy. Others, according to commanders and fellow fighters, struggle to assemble weapons or to coordinate basic combat movements. A few have even walked away from their posts, abandoning the battlefield altogether.

While Ukraine presses on with its incursion into Russia’s Kursk region, its troops are still losing precious ground along the country’s eastern front — a grim erosion that military commanders blame in part on poorly trained recruits drawn from a recent mobilization drive, as well as Russia’s clear superiority in ammunition and air power.

“Some people don’t want to shoot. They see the enemy in the firing position in trenches but don’t open fire. … That is why our men are dying,” said a frustrated battalion commander in Ukraine’s 47th Brigade. “When they don’t use the weapon, they are ineffective.”

Commanders say the recruits have contributed to a string of territorial losses that enabled Russia’s army to advance, including near the city of Pokrovsk, a critical logistics hub. If it falls, the defeat would imperil Ukraine’s defenses and bring Russia closer to its stated aim of capturing the Donetsk region. Russian soldiers are now just 10 kilometers (6.2 miles) away.

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    I understand people being reluctant to kill others unless absolutely necessary. One reason why I will never work in the defense industry is that here is no way for me to be certain that my work will only ever be used in self-defense.

    But in this case? Bucha, attacks on hospitals and abduction of children? What else do these people need to understand what the consequences of not fighting are?

    I’d love to see a world where war is a thing of the past, but until then it is necessary and in my opinion even morally required to take up arms and defend those who can not fight.

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      When you are looking at someone down the scope of a gun, you do not see a kidnapper, or a mudered. You see a person. That is not a moral judgment. It is a deep instinctual inpulse we have, enhanced by a lifetime of socialization, against killing people. Half of the point of military training is getting people to overcome tharmt base instinct.

      As the commanders say, these soldiers have not had adequate training.

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    3 months ago

    Its almost like kidnapping people off the streets to conscript them is bad tactically and strategically

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      3 months ago

      These types of comments are wanted and encouraged on hexbear and lemmy(grad).ml not here. Please refrain from spouting Russian propaganda Here.

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          Because you are pushing a narrative that the Ukranians find this normal and it is common. After this came out there was a purge of the recruitment staff and zelensky called the corruption treasonous.

          Further, draft dodging in time of war is a crime for which you can be arrested.

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            Then why aren’t they allowed to serve prison time, why are so many “detainees” ending up dead on the frontlines?

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              3 months ago

              Got a sauce for those accusations… as I’m genuinely curious. I keep pretty informed and missed this …maybe.

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                Do… do you think no Ukrainians have died? Like genuinely. They get detained for dodging the draft and are then SENT TO THE FRONTLINES. Do you seriously need a Ukrainian reporter explicitly stating that verbatim to understand how conscription works???

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                  So what do you suggest? Ukranians just concede all land to the murderous Russian hordes only to be genocided then? It’s not as if there are any alternatives to fighting for Ukraine. Better they do it on Russian land.