The problem is that (as far as i know) only pixels fulfill their security requirements, for example that the bootloader is not only unlockable but also lockable. But I also would like to have more devices supporting it
Mmmhm. I’ve been eyeing them since their first phone. I’m sure they will offer even the most basic “international shipping with no warranty or support” any day now…
my skeleton, 64 years from now, in front of a computer with the website loaded, waiting for the global debut
Idk where you are, but looking at their shipping info they list some authorized resellers that ship to the US. As you said, they will have varying levels of warranty etc but yiu also have to check hardware stuff like mobile network compatibility etc
Unfortunately, it’s only murena that I can see (https://murena.com/america/products/smartphones/?wcpbc-manual-country=US), which only has the FP4. It’s quite frustrating, I want to support the project and FP is just uninterested in doing so for NA. Even when the 4 came out, it was going to be a downgrade from my Pixel 5, but like 3y (?) later with no sign of the FP5 is oof.
(I forgot too that it’s only compatible with 1 of the 3 nationwide networks here, which I don’t currently use… but baby steps, just having availability here would be nice)
CalyxOS relocks the bootloader and they supported the FP5 right after launch.
CalyxOS is not a hardened OS, and GrapheneOS requires more than than just relocking the bootloader.
Fairphone’s devices do not meet basic security requirements for hardware, firmware and the software device support including drivers. Please look at the hardware requirements at https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices and check for yourself how many of those are provided by the Fairphone. Even the Fairphone 5 has a CPU core from 2021 without even PAC and BTI.
They will only support Pixels for the foreseeable future, as these are the only devices that meet their hardware security requirements https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
[please… something other than Pixel…]
Pixel 9
The problem is that (as far as i know) only pixels fulfill their security requirements, for example that the bootloader is not only unlockable but also lockable. But I also would like to have more devices supporting it
Fairphones should be supported imo. CalyxOS relocks the bootloader and they supported the FP5 right after launch.
Fairphones aren’t even anywhere close to meeting the security requirements of GrapheneOS. Daniel Micay explained this many times, most notably in this Reddit thread (before they left Reddit and switched to their own, self-hosted forum) https://redlib.nohost.network/r/GrapheneOS/comments/10b5x4n/has_anyone_managed_to_install_grapheneos_on_a/j67pbny
gos is open source. If the fairphone people wanted to maintain a fork of GOS for their phones, they could.
Fairphone should sell phones outside of Europe
Unfortunately neither of us get what we want
Oh they dont? 0.o I didnt know that, weird
Mmmhm. I’ve been eyeing them since their first phone. I’m sure they will offer even the most basic “international shipping with no warranty or support” any day now…
my skeleton, 64 years from now, in front of a computer with the website loaded, waiting for the global debut
Idk where you are, but looking at their shipping info they list some authorized resellers that ship to the US. As you said, they will have varying levels of warranty etc but yiu also have to check hardware stuff like mobile network compatibility etc
Unfortunately, it’s only murena that I can see (https://murena.com/america/products/smartphones/?wcpbc-manual-country=US), which only has the FP4. It’s quite frustrating, I want to support the project and FP is just uninterested in doing so for NA. Even when the 4 came out, it was going to be a downgrade from my Pixel 5, but like 3y (?) later with no sign of the FP5 is oof.
(I forgot too that it’s only compatible with 1 of the 3 nationwide networks here, which I don’t currently use… but baby steps, just having availability here would be nice)
I can understand your frustration but there are probably reasons. Also the FP5 only came out exactly 1 year ago.
CalyxOS is not a hardened OS, and GrapheneOS requires more than than just relocking the bootloader.
Ref: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7208-8y-security-updates-on-fairphone-5-will-the-devs-consider-porting-grapheneos
Thanks for the info!
They will only support Pixels for the foreseeable future, as these are the only devices that meet their hardware security requirements https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices