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  • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Sure I’m a NATO apologist: I’m sorry NATO is necessary because Russia is such an antagonistic fuckwad.

    • dubya@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Russia had a choice: play by the west’s rules, or play second fiddle to China. They chose the latter unfortunately for them and for us.

      • Jumi@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        That’s just what happens when you go from tsarist serfdom state to a communist peasant regime to a “democractic” dictatorship while constantly greasing the gears with vodka and corruption.

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          2 months ago

          Hey at least the alcoholism has gotten a little bit better, right?

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            2 months ago

            Hey, you’d think so, right?

            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/01/15/alcohol-dependency-in-russia-increases-for-first-time-in-a-decade-a83718

            I mean, even if we trust the numbers coming out of a propaganda-riddled shithole whose only saving grace at this point would be a couple hundred strategically placed nukes (which - to be clear - I don’t. Their entire government+military is probably downing shots just to get through morning briefings). Even trusting their sources, they’re still back on the potato wild ride again. At this point I can only commend the nation for slowly killing itself, and blame them for not choosing a speedier route.

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      2 months ago

      Actual quote from Vladimir Putin:

      Dear NATO, we regret being imperialist bastards. We regret coming to Ukraine. And we most definitely regret that the VMSU just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!

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      2 months ago

      The world was deeply afraid of Marxism. When Russia experienced a workers-led revolution in 1917, Western powers were terrified of the spread of Marxist ideas and the potential threat they posed to the capitalist world order. In response, several Western states, along with their client states, sent their armies into Russia, aiming to overthrow the newly established worker-run government under the Bolsheviks. We attacked first, in an effort to suppress a system we feared.

      This antagonism continued and evolved over the decades, culminating in the Cold War, where tensions between the Soviet Union and the West defined global politics. The Cuban Missile Crisis stands out as a key moment in this conflict. In fact, it was the United States that, in violation of international norms and against the Geneva Convention, installed nuclear launch sites along Russia’s borders in Turkey, heightening the threat and contributing to the Soviet response of placing missiles in Cuba.

      Historically, it’s clear that we have been antagonistic towards Russia, driven by a fear of communism and a desire to maintain Western dominance. This pattern of confrontation has had long-lasting effects on the geopolitical landscape, contributing to the strained relations that persist today.

      Dont take my word for this stuff, you can easily find information online, in text books.

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        Not to defend Western European imperialism in Russia because fuck that but no one did more to destroy the newly established worker-run government than the Bolsheviks. I’m assuming you’re a ML–unfortunately they don’t allow factual discussions of history, so you’ll need to read some history outside of the thought bubble to learn the truth.