I feel that Yaml sucks. I understand the need for such markup language but I think it sucks. Somehow it’s clunky to use. Can you explain why?

  • Vivendi@lemmy.zip
    6115·
    3 months ago

    Can people stop hating on shit?

    FOR FUCKS SAKE, negative reinforcement dopamine has RUINED THE FUCKING NET.

    EVERYWHERE I GO there’s someone bitching about something, hate circlejerks are unbelievably popular, people just love to hate on stuff.

    You’re ruining your thought patterns with all these social media negativity bullshit.

    Fucking TOML users hate on fucking YAML fucking C++ users hate Rust fucking Rust users hate literally everything under the sun and are insufferable to work with

    EVERYONE, fucking CHILL

    • Sir Gareth@programming.dev
      9·
      3 months ago

      Yeah TBH I like yaml. Sure its not the best ever, but its not the worst it could possibly be.

      For config its not terrible. For ansible playbooks its again… not terrible.

      Why is everyone always hating on something which is just kinda mid.

      • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
        7·
        3 months ago

        Config is fine, but Yamls biggest problem is people use it to describe programs. For example: playbooks. For example: CI steps.

        If YAML wasn’t abused in this way it would have a lot less hate.

        • derpgon@programming.dev
          2·
          3 months ago

          What’s wrong with using YAML for CI? I mean, I use it for Gitlab CI, the underlying script it runs is just Bash.

          • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
            3·
            3 months ago

            Right, so you just have a single step and then hand over to a proper script. I’ve seen many people try to put much more complex logic in there before handing over to a proper language.

          • cashew@lemmy.world
            3·
            3 months ago

            You’re doing it right by avoiding as much of Gitlab’s CI features. I’ve seen versions where scripts are inlined in the YAML with expressions in random rule fields and pipeline variables thrown all over the place. And don’t get me started on their “includes” keyword, it’s awful in practice, gives me nightmares.

            Then I write a Kubernetes manifest in YAML with JSON schema validation and the heart rate goes down again.

    • orcrist@lemm.ee
      6·
      3 months ago

      No seeds no stems no stress my guy. The Internet is a great place for complaining. Readers can downvote and move on, everyone gets what they want.