I know it’s been a running joke for years now, but jesus christ the iPhones still start at 128GB and the regular 16 is still 60Hz and USB 2.0.

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    10 days ago

    What are you guys storing in your phones? Mine hasn’t gotten anywhere close to full in years.

    I’m starting to feel like I’m missing out on something important!

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        Want to keep the flash on with the camera app open? Welp, guess you better start recording a video.

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        I had to stop that after I recorded myself on the other side doing the same thing. Whenever I watch the video it gives me a blissful headache.

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      It’s lame, but if you have kids, you’ll blow your storage every few months. MUST CAPTURE EVERY MOMENT OF THEIR LIVES THAT I’LL PROBABLY NEVER WATCH AGAIN

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        Hah, I had kids in the low-res era. By the time 4K rolled along they were already teenagers in the “put the camera away, dad” stage ;)

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      Wikipedia in English and Russian, music and videos in case I’m offline, a bunch of games and emulators, photos and videos taken in the last 30 days (the rest are on Immich), A Linux environment (iSH) and a bunch of junk

      I have ~80 GB free out of 512

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      Offline storage of Spotify music plus some local music files, bloated messaging apps, and then the majority would be photos and videos. Having cloud storage like Google One and a NAS helps, but having local files is also good when signal isn’t great.

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      To me it’s something I just don’t want to have to think about. I already pay a lot for the device either way, so I want it to just work and not juggle around apps/media/etc.

      My current iPhone is a 512 GB model and current usage is around 210 GB with photos already in iCloud. Record a couple of 4K videos and a 256 GB model would be full in no time (before uploading to the cloud, which can take a while when you’re on the go with flaky network conditions).

      My next phone will have at least 512 GB again, and I’m thinking about 1 TB as well, although the upgrade pricing is quite steep.

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      Would you like to see the 900 photos of my cats? Or would you like to see yesterday’s photos of my cats?

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    The 60hz screen is ridiculous. They need to make the phone WAY cheaper and acknowledge it’s mid-tier. But Apple want it both ways - a premium brand charging premium prices and then shovelling bottom-end specs to funnel you to the even-more-expensive models.

    I hate the stupidly low base storage, but personally am not impacted due to my usage patterns and having cheap cloud storage so I’m not as passionate with my disdain!

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    I really don’t understand this trend outside of profit squeezing and pushing users to cloud storage subscriptions. Right now on Amazon $120 bags you 2 TB of 6 GB/sec consumer flash storage. Don’t tell me they can’t find another 128 GB, especially with economy of scale.

    The year is 2024 and storage is cheap. No excuses.

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      Tim Apple needs to make sure his services department keeps growing its subscribers. Making the shareholders happy and secure his personal bonus payments.

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      Packaging flash storage onto the actual SoC SiP costs more than manufacturing the same amount of storage into an M.2 or external USB form factor, so that price can’t be directly compared. They’re making a big chunk of profit on storage upgrades, and on cloud subscriptions, but it’s not exactly cheap to give everyone 1TB of storage at that base price.

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        That’s fascinating. My understanding was that flash storage is not physically integrated into the SoC but rather remains a separate ship that is sometimes stacked vertically.

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          You’re right, it’s not the same die, but the advanced packaging techniques that they keep improving (like the vertical stacking you mention) make for a much tighter set of specs for the raw flash storage silicon compared to what they might be putting in USB drives or NVMe sticks, in power consumption/temperature management, bus speeds/latency, form factor, etc.

          So it’d be more accurate to describe it as a system on a package (SiP) rather than a system on a chip (SoC). Either way, that carries certain requirements that aren’t present for a standalone storage package separately soldered onto the PCB, or even storage through some kind of non-soldered swappable interface.

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              Yeah, this advanced packaging stuff is pretty new, where they figured out how to make little chiplets but still put them onto the same package, connected by new tech that finally allows for high speed, low latency connections between chiplets (without causing dealbreaker temperature issues). That’s opened up a lot of progress even as improving the circuits on the silicon itself has run into engineering challenges.

              So while TSMC seemingly ahead of its competition on actually printing circuits on silicon with smaller and denser features, advanced packaging tech is going a long way in allowing companies to mix and match different pieces of silicon with different strengths and functionality (for a more cost effective end solution, and making better use of the nodes that aren’t at the absolute bleeding edge).

              Engineers are doing all sorts of cool stuff right now.

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    I don’t really care about those but I guess the 16 mini wasn’t announced?

    FFS, us 13 mini users only wanted that, hoping that maybe the mini will be made every x iPhone generation. Apparently it won’t be every 3 generations.

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      USB 2.0 isn’t just about data, It also limits charging speeds to 2.0 speed, so you won’t get USBC speeds even though it’s a USBC port.

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        That is simply incorrect. The non pro models charge just as fast as the pro ones. It has nothing to do with 2.0 vs 3.x

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          Well if we’re going to get pedantic about it yes but also no. Usb 3.0 also includes specs for fast charging that’s done by using both power lines at the same time. You have to use the 3.0 spec to be able to charge a 3.0 speeds, but just because you use the 3.0 spec, does not mean that it does charge at 3.0 speeds.

          If x then y but not necessarily the inverse.

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            No. It does not supply power over the data lines. I am sorry, but this is simply not true.

            Please, look up USB Power Delivery. It is independent of USB version.

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    Something people don’t realize is that we enthusiasts that know what usb 2.0 means, make up such a small piece of Apple customers.

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      Yeah, but it’s insane (but not surprising, I called it last year when everyone said that the base model would have 3.0 this year) that a high end expensive phone is still on USB 2.0

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    Not using iPhone, but it’s also partly why I’m hesitant on switching to the Pixel 9 Pro. Base P9P is 128GB with option of 256, and the regular P9 is 128GB only (Edit: it has 256 also). It’s criminal.

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      the regular P9 is 128GB only

      I’ve got the regular pixel 9 with 256. It’s not limited to 128, it just is the base model size.

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        I’m mistaken. Thanks for correcting! (Edit: looks like 256GB model is only limited to white and black, and the first color option on the Google store website is pink, which only has 128GB. Must be why I got mistaken. Thanks again!)