• sentientity@lemm.ee
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    2 hours ago

    It’s excellent that alternatives and ad blockers do exist but we need regulatory action to hold companies accountable for things that are designed to worsen user experience to pressure people into paying. It’s also a serious accessibility issue, to increasingly have everything be bright and loud and motion filled and unpausable all the time. This trend goes beyond YouTube and it sucks, we need to regulate this nonsense.

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      37 minutes ago

      What a weird downslope of a take that will obviously result in authoritarian government power expansion and futher censorship.

      Just stop using it and support alternatives that dont do it. Have some self control.

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        14 minutes ago

        Name a single viable alternative to YouTube at this point in time. Alternative frontends don’t count, since they still rely on YouTube to work. None of the creators I watch upload anywhere else.

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        7 minutes ago

        People always say shit like this as if people don’t have a multitude of different life circumstances that affect and coerce how they interact with technology. That’s just how capitalism works. It’s not a matter of willpower. Privacy Bootstraps Theory is unhelpful. Being able to completely opt out of entrenched tech monopolies is a privilege. It’s great that you can do that, not everybody can.

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      6 hours ago

      I’d rather see them on pause screen than interrupting the playback but because we can’t have any nice things, interruptions will also only get worse.

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        5 hours ago

        Yeah, I guarantee you google isn’t interested in showing you one or the other. They want the revenue from both. My only question is, if you pause an ad, can you get another ad in your ad?

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    7 hours ago

    It’s their private website, they do on it whatever they want. Right, lemmy?

    You can run your own federated streaming service that will have no ads and will be free of charge, yeah?

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      6 hours ago

      Nobody here wants peertube really.

      They want free bandwidth (streaming 4k60), free computation (encoding, optimization), free research (codec development) and free storage (for endless amount of videos). Google sucking is a valid reason to piggyback on Google infrastructure but they seem to feel entitled to Google just letting it happen.

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        2 hours ago

        I never understood, and never will understand this.

        Even when I was a poor teenager and pirated essentially everything I always knew that this content only exists because someone is paying for it.

        How do people go around feeling like the best VoD platform to ever exist, available on every device imaginable, optimized for years by best software engineers the world has, should be free, and without ads is beyond me.

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        i pay for this shiti service while being data mined anyway…

        you are acting as if paying is a solution against these parasites… it aint.

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      6 hours ago

      No, commercial services with a dominant position in the market cannot do whatever they want.

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        3 hours ago

        This market domination is non-discriminatory. It’s not like you go to your local car dealerships and they don’t sell you any other brand than GM. Everyone on the internet is free to go and use any other service. It’s dominant because users are happy with their ads or subscription fees instead of investing their time into using a competing product.

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          Everyone on the internet is free to go and use any other service.

          Yes but that’s not the claim you made. You wrote “It’s their private website, they do on it whatever they want. Right, lemmy?” and this blanket statement is wrong. They can’t to “whatever they want” because they are bound by laws. If Google/Alphabet instituted rules on YouTube that competing video services like Nebula cannot named at all, market watchdogs would be at their heels immediately and they’d win in court if it came to it.

          Can they put ads on pause screens? Yes. Can they do “whatever they want”? No.

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    I wonder what made their leadership continue to escalate into increasingly bullshit decisions. What happens if I need to pause because I need my PC to be quiet so I can address something and still an ad suddenly starts playing, completely interrupting what I wanted to address in a completely intrusive way? I’ll tell you what happens, I’ll either find some way to disable that from happening, switch to a service that doesn’t do it if I can, or just begin avoiding it all together.

    Brilliant planing, YouTube. Whoever has been left as its leadership is a dumbass.

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      10 hours ago

      Not to mention it’ll push more people towards using Adblockers. And since chrome is cracking down on Adblockers as well, people start using another browser altogether. It seems like Google is self-sabotaging with these kind of decisions.

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        Hilarious isn’t it? I stopped using Google search because they fucked it up too bad. I stopped watching YouTube years ago too because they already fucked it up.

        I guess they just don’t want users anymore.

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          I guess they just don’t want users anymore.

          Actually, they do; it’s just that Google has become a bit short-sighted. They’ve started prioritizing short-term revenue over long-term growth and user experience.

          They seem to have forgotten that focusing on the long term and prioritizing user experience were the key factors that made them an internet giant in the first place.

          In any case, Google is a sinking ship. I’ll give them a max of seven years before they become the next Yahoo if they keep making incompetent decisions like this.

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      Whoever has been left as its leadership is a dumbass.

      Not in the slightest. More likely their annual bonus depends on boosting revenue right now. So they’re incentivised to generate short term increases in revenue but not for longer term. Plus, also, if/when Youtube goes tits up they’ll just get a different CEOing job (with “increased revenue by 25% in 2024 on their resume”) rinse and repeat.

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      11 hours ago

      Money.

      Also I imagine the ads will be silent but animated, like a regular website ad but full screen, essentially turning whatever you’re watching it on into a giant billboard.

      It’s just another thing to block I guess.

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        11 hours ago

        I should have opened the article, that’s a lot less intrusive than what I thought. If this is the extent of it, and frankly considering that Google let’s you opt out of personalized tracking when many sites have begun forcing them onto users and forcing me to constantly clear their cookies, that makes me a lot less mad with them.

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    12 hours ago

    Don’t most YouTubers make more money with their own sponsorships than from YT ads? Can we start the mass migration to PeerTube already?

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      11 hours ago

      I don’t think Peertube would handle mass migration of Youtube creators, unless each and every one of them set up their own instance.

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        I’d honestly be curious to see how that plays out. Every creator hosts their own content while strengthening and spreading the Peertube network.

        I feel like that would quickly solidify it as a viable alternative.

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          This, my friends, is a classic lemmy argument: “how about someone whom I already don’t pay anything go and do more work for less pay, so I can enjoy my content free, without ads, and don’t need to bother with an AdBlock”.

          How about, you, anon, set up a server, provide a simple upload API, and convince your favorite content creator to upload there? Since it’s no costs for them and very little work, they might. Maintain that for a year, then we’ll talk.

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      11 hours ago

      YT will likely attempt to play creators and viewers off one another. Similar to how hospitality does so with patrons and staff re: tips. You could see a FUD campaign aimed at anyone republishing their work on competitor sites.

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      11 hours ago

      odysee can also be a option from peertube as well but odysees privacy policy they sell non pii data according to them if they dont sell user data we will be good

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    14 hours ago

    Did I miss some detail? I get the impressions from the comments this is some really poor choice for user experience as people will often pause to check something

    But in my experience pause ads are nothing new at all and they start after the device has been idle. What did I miss that makes this different?