• Riley@lemmy.ml
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    I’m very intrigued, Dan Sup is one of the most interesting people working in the fediverse these days, and I’m very curious about anything he puts forward.

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      I’m not very interested in a TikTok Clone. I wished he worked on sup instead, his idea for a federated chat.

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      Dan has mentioned some time ago that he was thinking about making the videos delete themselves after some time, but I’m not sure if he ever followed up with that.

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      IMO a very small amount of storage should be free but after that the user needs to pay. It’s the right thing to do for hosts and for the environment. If content creators need massive amounts of video then that will incentivize them to make money on it.

      The only people left out are small, niche channels that have quality or important content but don’t make much money. Maybe they could be cut special deals by the hosts / donors.

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        Creator coops like nebula are absolutely where things need to end up on the higher usage end.

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        …And which big creator would choose to PAY instead of getting paid for uploading their videos (like it is, as of now)? I doubt this model would work at all, I don’t think anyone would want to join like that. Sure enough, youtube/tiktok/insta/whatever takes a chunk of the profits too, but at least content creators there can start from scratch and don’t have to invest in hosting first.

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          Big creators make a ton of money from their videos. I’m fine with the Fediverse adding ads, or creators doing sponsorships. We need a separation of concerns. Fediverse is removing centralized corporate control.

          We need a way to get good content creators money on the Fediverse.

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      Nobody really said that. Loops is federated open source software so I doubt anyone will hate it.

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        I mean I know it was a hyperbole. There are negative comments in the thread, though. They mostly don’t like it for it’s short video form and algorithm I think.

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    It’s just… Part of TikTok is attention-seeking.

    It’s kinda the entire point for a lot of the users and uploaders, that and getting paid to continue the cycle of creating more content.

    If you’re expecting us, as-in, the federated populace on Lemmy and Mastodon to use it, I dunno, man. Sharing personal content is a very rare use case here. We usually stick to news and memes.

    Then again, communities that are rather reliant on a performance like fishing, sports, guitar, drums, and skill toys like yoyos might get a use out of having a safe public place to upload themselves without outside influence.

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      A lot of content on Tiktok is about presenting content rather the person. It can be similar to Youtube, but more accessible for beginners content creators now that a lot of Youtubers have a professional setup, and barrier to entry is much higher.

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    So tiktok for the fediverse…

    Listen, I’m all for open sourcing stuff and I’m all for the fediverse and all. I just don’t understand why one would want a fediverse tiktok.

    • Short form content is addictive af and doesn’t add anything of substance to society.
    • Video hosting is expensive. Peertube is already struggling. How do you expect to financially sustain video hosting that is addictive to the user (which means more consumption) without running ads? Paywalling it won’t be an option due to the network effect as well.
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      I have hundreds of short form videos which are designed to uplift, encourage, and speak positively about mental health issues. I’ve had lots of people tell me that my videos in some small way encourage them to take the next step in their mental health.

      In other words, it’s not the form of the video that matters, it’s the content.

      As for the cost of the server, I think the videos will expire after a certain amount of time. Something like Snapchat.

      The great thing about the Fediverse is that it offers options. Is this going to be exactly like TikTok? Of course not. Will it serve a purpose for some? Time will tell.