The linked post is damning as FUCK. It’s not about business. Someone’s review bruised his fragile little ego.
Get bent.
Bye, Felicia
- None of the Work may be used in any form as part, or whole, of an integration, plugin or app that integrates with Atlassian’s Confluence or Jira products.
its just the apache 2 license with a restriction to not sell this project on one marketplace. Can still sell the code elsewhere. Its still totally open source, and honestly Confluence is not something I would loose sleep on. Jira has been a cash cow for a long time, and I have a beef with them anyway
Its still totally open source
No, it’s not. Those restrictions are against the open source definition.
It is still open source. However, it is not free software anymore.
You replied to a comment referencing the open source definition and it’s clear you did never read it.
I have a totally different view, if I can use it in my own projects, that are released with an MIT or Apache 2 or similar license, then its open source.
Not that I want to, but I could contribute to draw.io, or fork it and privately make changes, then make money off either the original repo or my fork, and its legal.
I could sell one line of code change for a million dollars and then start writing daily taunting letters, daring them to sue me, and I would be fine.
How is that not open source?
How is that not open source?
Google “open source definition” and read for yourself.
But you couldn’t release your own projects based on this under pure MIT or Apache-2.0. Presumably you’d need to include the same restriction about selling on Atlassian’s marketplace.
Because of the “no restrictions on use” thing.
I’m happy this arrangement works for you, but it’s clearly pushing beyond the boundaries of OSI-defined open source, let alone Free Software.
I think anyone arguing that would eventually fall back to not so defined standards to make their point.
Ultimately, from my point of view, I am a developer who makes software that others will take advantage of to make their own profits. I have not made any ground breaking projects yet, but I am working on one the past year, and hope to have it widely used. Maybe it will, maybe not
But, my viewpoint is that users are greedy, they want everything for nothing. I also need users to want to use my stuff. Its a delicate balancing act.
I think ultimately, the op source code did it wrong in the beginning, if they had layered their work more, some of it open source, some closed source, they would not have the backlash now.
Maybe one day my own stuff will have similar controversy, or not! Either way, if people call my own stuff not open source enough, and I am looking at my bank account, I do not care
TLDR: I’m too lazy or self absorbed to go look at the OSI website.
I honestly do not care, there are too many open source organizations doing their own plays for money and influence, honestly, in large, they are the best for progress
You sure run your mouth a lot for someone who “doesn’t care”.
Honestly good on them for keeping the spirit alive for just about everyone who isn’t a direct competitor of theirs.
Let them make some money to continue to fund it. They even invalidated all sponsorships because of the license change.
Unless you personally were willing to fund whatever they make on their integration, then this is an ok play in my book.
Hmmm. I wonder who is making so much money off this that the project is willing to push them into forking it . . . ?
