• Vendul@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    It’s kinda good but it completely destroyed the European manufacturing for solar

    • Allero@lemmy.today
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      1 month ago

      It is good, period.

      Local manufacturing is politically advantageous and may employ some people at the same time, but that’s where benefits end.

      Europe didn’t reject Chinese face masks during COVID-19, and Europe shouldn’t reject Chinese solar during a climate emergency.

      Solve that first, and political struggles later.

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      1 month ago

      You’re either an astroturfer or useful idiot spreading oil lobby talking points.

      Either you believe the climate science or you don’t. If you do, you know that we don’t have time for industry protectionism.

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        1 month ago

        Do not assume bad faith over anything you disagree with.

        While I disagree with the original statement, hostility never changed anyone’s mind.

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          1 month ago

          hostility never changed anyone’s mind

          Chronic abuse absolutely shapes human perception and behavior.

          In this case, a lot of Lemmy has been so battered down by “China Bad” propaganda that they’ll straight up deny the threat of climate change to justify rejecting Chinese manufactured goods.

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      1 month ago

      When panels were 30c/watt, projects at $1/watt in EU and US happened. 70c/watt was spent on labour, copper, support structures, and grid connection equipment. All of those can be locally produced, with possible exception of last item.

      At 6c/watt, that is over 90% of power projects are local economy boosting instead of 70%. It provides cheaper energy that is useful for industrialization and cost of living benefits too. US tariffs on solar are entirely about protecting oil/gas extortion power instead of a $10B solar production industry that needs fairly expensive support.

      Solar imports does not cause energy dependence. You have power for 30+ years with no reliance on continuous fuel supplies. Shoes and apparel is a $450B industry in US. You need new supplies every year, and it makes much more sense to secure supply in that industry for war on the world purposes.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Europeans demolished their manufacturing sector when they stripped all the wiring out of the walls during the austerity years.

      You can’t blame people for buying foreign when you’ve been defunding domestic infrastructure for over a decade.

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      1 month ago

      If EU wants to compete they’re welcome to utilize the same style of subsidies that enabled China to produce these so cheaply.