• Greg Clarke@lemmy.ca
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    17 days ago

    Generative AI is a tool, sometimes is useful, sometimes it’s not useful. If you want a recipe for pancakes you’ll get there a lot quicker using ChatGPT than using Google. It’s also worth noting that you can ask tools like ChatGPT for it’s references.

    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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      17 days ago

      It’s also worth noting that you can ask tools like ChatGPT for it’s references.

      last time I tried that it made up links that didn’t work, and then it admitted that it cannot reference anything because of not having access to the internet

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        17 days ago

        That’s my point, if the model returns a hallucinated source you can probably disregard it’s output. But if the model provides an accurate source you can verify it’s output. Depending on the information you’re researching, this approach can be much quicker than using Google. Out of interest, have you experienced source hallucinations on ChatGPT recently (last few weeks)? I have not experienced source hallucinations in a long time.

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          I use GPT (4o, premium) a lot, and yes, I still sometimes experience source hallucinations. It also will sometimes hallucinate incorrect things not in the source. I get better results when I tell it not to browse. The large context of processing web pages seems to hurt its “performance.” I would never trust gen AI for a recipe. I usually just use Kagi to search for recipes and have it set to promote results from recipe sites I like.

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    16 days ago

    Eh…I got it to find a product that met the specs I was looking for on Amazon when no other search worked. It’s certainly a last resort but it worked. Idk why whenever I’m looking to buy anything lately somehow the only criteria I care about are never documented properly…

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        16 days ago

        I mean, it gave me exactly what I asked for. The only further research was to actually read the item description to verify that but I could have blindly accepted it and received what I was looking for.

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    17 days ago

    Who else is going to aggregate those recipes for me without having to scroll past ads a personal blog bs?

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      16 days ago

      So I rarely splurge on an app but I did splurge on AntList on Android because they have a import recipe function. Also allows you to get paywall blocked recipes if you are fast enough.

    • bradd@lemmy.world
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      There was a project a few years back that scrapped and parsed, literally the entire internet, for recipes, and put them in an elasticsearch db. I made a bomb ass rub for a tri-tip and chimichurri with it that people still talk about today. IIRC I just searched all tri-tip rubs and did a tag cloud of most common ingredients and looked at ratios, so in a way it was the most generic or average rub.

      If I find the dataset I’ll update, I haven’t been able to find it yet but I’m sure I still have it somewhere.

  • FiveMacs@lemmy.ca
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    17 days ago

    And when the search engines shove it in your faces and try to make it so we HAVE to use it for searches to justify their stupid expenses?

  • Daemon Silverstein@thelemmy.club
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    17 days ago

    If sites (especially news outlets and scientific sites) were more open, maybe people would have means of researching information. But there’s a simultaneous phenomenon happening as the Web is flooded with AI outputs: paywalls. Yeah, I know that “the authors need to get money” (hey, look, a bird flew across the skies carrying some dollar bills, all birds are skilled on something useful to the bird society, it’s obviously the way they eat and survive! After all, we all know that “capitalism” and “market” emerged on the first moments of Big Bang, together with the four fundamental forces of physics). Curiously, AI engines are, in practice, “free to use” (of course there are daily limitations, but these aren’t a barrier just like a paywall is), what’s so different here? The costs exist for both of them, maybe AI platforms have even higher costs than news and scientific publication websites, for obvious reasons. So, while the paywalls try to bring dimes to journalism and science (as if everyone had spare dimes for hundreds or thousands of different mugs from sites where information would be scattered, especially with rising costs of house rents, groceries and everything else), the web and its users will still face fake news and disinformation, no matter how hard rules and laws beat them. AI slops aren’t a cause, they’re a consequence.

    • pishadoot@sh.itjust.works
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      16 days ago

      Nice incoherent rant bro

      You know that people used to pay for newspapers right? Local tv news was free on maybe one or two channels, but anything else was on cable tv (paid for) or newspapers.

      We WANT news to cost money. If you expect it to be free to consume, despite all the costs associated with getting and delivering journalism (let’s see, big costs just off the top of my head: competitive salaries, travel to news worthy sites, bandwidth to serve you content, all office space costs, etc), then the only way they can pay for it is to serve outrageous amounts of ads in tiny, bite sized articles that actually have no substance, because the only revenue they get is ad views and clicks.

      That is NOT what we want. Paywalls aren’t bad unless we’re talking scientific research. Please get out of the mindset of everything should be free, don’t sneer at “authors need money” mf they DO if you want anything that’s worth a damn.

  • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    17 days ago

    This is why Melon and the AI chud brigade are so obsessed with having a chatbot (sorry, “AI”) that always agrees with them: a stupid number of people think LLMs are search engines, or worse, search engines but better, some diviner of truth.

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      17 days ago

      Information is not truth. A do or die slogan for the 21st century.

  • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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    17 days ago

    Where was all this coming from? Well, I don’t know what Stern or Esquire’s source was. But I know Navarro-Cardenas’, because she had a follow-up message for critics: “Take it up with Chat GPT.”

    The absolute gall of this woman to blame her own negligence and incompetence on a tool she grossly misused.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    “How to make a pie”

    Here’s how to make a pie:

    Gather ingredients:

    • Flour
    • Eggs
    • Water
    • 10 pounds of dog shit
    • 10 gallons of cat urine

    Cooking Process:

    • Step 1: Mix all ingredients and place in a pan
    • Step 2: Add Gasoline
    • Step 3: Bake at 9000° Celsius for 12 hours
    • Step 4: ???
    • Step 5: Profit?
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      17 days ago

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      To make a pie, you’ll need a pastry crust, a filling, and a baking dish. Here’s a basic guide:

      Ingredients:

      For the pie crust:

      2 1/2 cups all-purpose flour

      1 teaspoon salt

      1 cup (2 sticks) unsalted butter, cold and cut into small pieces

      1/2 cup ice water

      For the filling (example - apple pie):

      6 cups peeled and sliced apples (Granny Smith or Honeycrisp work well)

      1/2 cup sugar

      1/4 cup all-purpose flour

      1 teaspoon ground cinnamon

      1/2 teaspoon ground nutmeg

      1/4 teaspoon salt

      2 tablespoons butter, cut into small pieces

      Instructions:

      1. Make the pie crust:

      Mix dry ingredients:

      In a large bowl, whisk together flour and salt.

      Cut in butter:

      Add cold butter pieces and use a pastry cutter or two knives to cut the butter into the flour mixture until it resembles coarse crumbs with pea-sized pieces.

      Add water:

      Gradually add ice water, mixing until the dough just comes together. Be careful not to overmix.

      Form dough:

      Gather the dough into a ball, wrap it in plastic wrap, and refrigerate for at least 30 minutes.

      1. Prepare the filling:

      Mix ingredients: In a large bowl, combine apple slices, sugar, flour, cinnamon, nutmeg, and salt. Toss to coat evenly.

      1. Assemble the pie:

      Roll out the dough: On a lightly floured surface, roll out the chilled dough to a 12-inch circle.

      Transfer to pie plate: Carefully transfer the dough to a 9-inch pie plate and trim the edges.

      Add filling: Pour the apple filling into the pie crust, mounding slightly in the center.

      Dot with butter: Sprinkle the butter pieces on top of the filling.

      Crimp edges: Fold the edges of the dough over the filling, crimping to seal.

      Cut slits: Make a few small slits in the top of the crust to allow steam to escape.

      1. Bake:

      Preheat oven: Preheat oven to 375°F (190°C).

      Bake: Bake the pie for 45-50 minutes, or until the crust is golden brown and the filling is bubbling.

      Cool: Let the pie cool completely before serving.

      Variations:

      Different fillings:

      You can substitute the apple filling with other options like blueberry, cherry, peach, pumpkin, or custard.

      Top crust designs:

      Decorate the top of your pie with decorative lattice strips or a simple leaf design.

      Flavor enhancements:

      Add spices like cardamom, ginger, or lemon zest to your filling depending on the fruit you choose.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        17 days ago

        Yeah, you’d spend more time filtering out nonsense than you would save vs actually implementing some decent logic.

        Maybe use AI trained from a better source to help filter the nonsense from Reddit, and then have a human sample the output. Maybe then you’d get some okay training data, but that’s a bit of putting the cart before the horse.

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    17 days ago

    Ok.

    > uses search engine

    > search engine gives generative AI answer

    God dammit

    > scroll down

    > click search result

    > AI Generated article

    • Ech@lemm.ee
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      17 days ago

      Maybe go to more than 2 places for your information? I agree that this shit is also an issue with news and other media, but it’s not that hard to find more substantial information on things. At least not yet.

      And I can’t remember the exact process off hand, but there’s still a way to get search results without that garbage on google. I’ll edit if I can find it.