Technology Connections (@techconnectify.bsky.social)
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So, unfortunately when I go to Mastodon these days it's a bit of a ghost town. And I say unfortunately with sincerity - there are some things I really liked about the ethos behind it. However, the reason I'm posting this here is that I couldn't put it there without getting instant shit. 🧵
  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zipEnglish
    491·
    17 days ago

    Not at all surprised.

    I follow Alec on Mastodon and the vast majority of interactions over the past few months have been people aggressively "well ackshually"ing him or outright getting angry.

    That isn’t to say it is all shit (I would like to think a few conversations I had with him were mutually pleasant). But his entire ethos is that he approaches problems from a practical “midwesterner” perspective. And that REALLY angers all the ideological nutjobs who are angry if anyone even suggests something that won’t advance their own pseudo-political goals.

    And I’ve noticed it with a lot of other “celebrities” on Mastodon. The rest of us can have fun conversations while the shitheads stay to themselves. They are too high profile and the shitheads flock to them to make sure they understand why they are actually wrong and are a bad person for thinking something.

  • Sundray@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    351·
    17 days ago

    When you compare Alec’s recent videos with his early ones, it’s pretty clear that the negativity he receives has been wearing him down. Like many YouTubers, even when he’s sharing information about something he loves, he’s very bitter and sarcastic about it. Like, half of each video is trying to pre-argue with his trolls.

    I understand why popular content creators have to set boundaries because it seems like a pretty soul-destroying job to have. If Bluesky helps him do that, more power to him. But for a nobody like me, I prefer Mastodon, largely because I’ve made friends with people on my local instance, and interacting with other servers is merely a bonus feature.

    • HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      222·
      16 days ago

      How low do you have to be to criticise Alec? He’s funny, informative, and I love the presentation of his videos. One of the last remaining great YouTubers. Apparently, being a pedophile is more acceptable on YouTube than being a good person. Now, why did I leave again…

      • Sundray@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        10·
        16 days ago

        Agreed. Technology Connections is one of my favorite channels – it’s always a good day when Alec posts a new video. I wish people would treat him better, he certainly deserves it.

  • Andy@slrpnk.netEnglish
    29·
    17 days ago

    I’m sorry he hasn’t liked it, but critique is how we get better. Hope Mastodon keeps growing.

    • Kichae@lemmy.caEnglish
      232·
      17 days ago

      It’s frustrating, because a lot of the interesting people to follow and engage with on Mastodon have also jumped to Bluesky, and the fedi crowd continues to crow about algorithms and brain rot, when the biggest reason people bounce off of Mastodon is the other people on Mastodon.

      There’s a deep undercurrent of “angry, hostile nerd”. When people started flooding Mastodon in 2022, you could see the binary reaction of “Finally, the recognition we deserve!” and also “you’re in my house now, you fucking normie, and you’d better start acting like it”.

      Unsurprisingly, the “fucking normies” noped out, either immediately, or as soon as they had another option that satisfied their objections with Twitter.

      But we’re going to wring our hands and bitch about onboarding flows and the great sin of defederation, because it let’s us ignore that we are the problem.

      • Pasta Dental@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        122·
        16 days ago

        I don’t know how to word it, but what I really hate about mastodon is that the cancel culture is like 10x every other platform. As soon as you have a slight disagreement on something it’s because you’re a homophobe and a racist and an ableist and you hate autistic people and whatnot. If the word woke wasn’t so used by trump to mean not being a fascist, it would be reserved for this kind of people. Idk I don’t like that mastodon is basically full of self diagnosed neuro divergent people. There are two extremes on the political spectrum, there’s the facist and mastodonists. I understand why someone wouldnt want to stay on there, it’s genuinely not a good place to have discussions on

        • Kichae@lemmy.caEnglish
          53·
          16 days ago

          It’s got a lot of untreated, traumatized people, and frustrated power nerds on it, and both groups let you know it with haste.

          The kicker is, the population is still small enough that they could be easily overwhelmed and put in their place, but you need a real mass of semi-tightly networked people to come over and take over the space, and that’s… just not the way community migrations work. So they can fairly safely gatekeep the space.

          Well, until Threads washes over everything. I don’t want to give shit to Zucks, but Threads will fundamentally change the makeup of the fedi microblog space in an instant, and that instant is growing ever closer.

          • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
            43·
            16 days ago

            You don’t understand why or how platforms like these got made, don’t you?

            If enough people came in to “put them in their place”, the way you describe, this place would basically become Threads (or Twitter) anyway.

            • Kichae@lemmy.caEnglish
              7·
              16 days ago

              I do know. I just don’t care. I believe in an open internet, not a place set aside for people to live out their Revenge of the Nerds fantasies. ActivityPub allows people to have their sheltered spaces, and also not attack the public square.

              They’re choosing to attack the public square anyway, because they don’t want their shelters, they want the whole fucking world. And they can’t have it.

              • Jupiter Rowland@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                1·
                16 days ago

                Decentralisation could very well lead to specialised instances for niche interests or fringe groups. I mean, exactly this has popped up during the first two Twitter migration wave.

                And still, you’ve got countless people who want mastodon.social to be exactly the way they want it to be, regardless of what anyone else may want, or what’s possible on such a big instance. Because that’s where they are, and they are not going to move elsewhere.

  • Shatur@lemmy.mlEnglish
    13·
    17 days ago

    I feel like we need to unite and make Mastodon a better place instead of making drama about it. Mastodon is not perfect, but it’s a platform over which we have control, unlike Bluesky.

  • Zachariah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    71·
    17 days ago

    So, unfortunately when I go to Mastodon these days it’s a bit of a ghost town. And I say unfortunately with sincerity - there are some things I really liked about the ethos behind it. However, the reason I’m posting this here is that I couldn’t put it there without getting instant shit. 🧵…

        • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
          6·
          17 days ago

          I’ve gotten an extremely similar comment on a couple posts I’ve made here on lemmy, in a video community no less.

          Personally I just said something’s like “welp, sorry that’s not your preferred format.” and then just move on.

          With how infrequent posts like that are, they don’t effect me at all, but It’d probably suck more if I was consistently getting negative comments like that,

        • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          11·
          16 days ago

          My gut instinct is to think, this is just a dumb person being mean on the Internet.

          But upon reflection, no one would say this on yt, twitter, Facebook, etc. because people are sharing actual bullshit on there. You would be dunked on so hard for complaining about yt videos or just ignored. There would be no point in complaining.

          On one hand it’s nice that Mastodon doesn’t have ads, and people usually don’t share bullshit, but does that logically result in attracting users who shit on someone for sharing a YouTube video, because sometimes other videos on YouTube are bad?

          I like that Mastodon has actual conversations but I don’t like this guy being dumb.

      • haverholm@kbin.earth
        426·
        17 days ago

        “Ghost town” = Not driven to oversharing by algorithms.

        “getting shit” = nobody wanting to listen to a youtuber’s outrage bait.

        It must be confusing to log into the fediverse straight off of Youtube, though. “Why aren’t people compulsively clicking and subscribing to everything? How am I not being recommended radicalising posts by conspiracy theorists and terror organisations within five clicks?”

        “Honey, this is Mastodon”

        <switches to Blooskie>

        “Ah, much better!”

        • hono4kami@pawb.socialOPEnglish
          81·
          17 days ago

          I geniunely can’t understand what you’re trying to say

          Perhaps the other reply was right–this comment is what he’s talking about

  • Zoe@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    61·
    17 days ago

    The amount of negativity on that thread alone is enough for me to realise that bluesky is not for me. I enjoy the positivity I find on the fedi and decided I wouldn’t use a platform that algorithmically rewards negativity when I was harassed off facebook. I am glad that others are finding it nicer than twitter but for me it seems much the same but without Elon Musk

  • sith@lemmy.zipEnglish
    4·
    15 days ago

    Mastodon simply is a different thing than X/Bluesky. It’s more like RSS/Blog/IRC. It will never go mainstream unless they add (opt out) algorithms and a better search functionality. But maybe that’s just not worth it. Mastodon has already lost to Bluesky when it comes to being an open mainstream Twitter replacement.

    I’m curious about if it’s even technically possible to build something federated that feels like a Twitter replacement, using the ActivityPub protocol.