Proper sf explores the edges of reality and then goes beyond.

Popular “sf” is old tropes and popular ideas rendered in terms of spaceships and robots.

The first is a real live alien. The second is cosplay.

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      They are 2 quite different things tho. Worlds apart. It’s good to acknowledge the difference.

      And it’s good to acknowledge that #2 is what the populace prefers.

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              We already agreed that it’s a big difference.

              2 completely different things that have the same name. Superficially similar but actually not.

              What’s the issue?

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                  (Semantics really is the smallest possible point.)

                  I think that the real point here is legitimacy. Scifi has a big reputation. Popular scifi borrows legitimacy from that reputation.

                  Separate popular scifi from that reputation and it loses legitimacy.

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        World’s apart is a bit of a stretch when there are plenty of examples that are both popular and push the boundaries. In hindsight, EVERYTHING becomes banal. I challenge you to just try to speak modern English without quoting or referencing Shakespeare.

        Also, the observation that the populous likes popular lowest common denominator kitsch isn’t exactly a unique or stunningly innovative insight. It’s ironically as banal and boringly repetitive as the genre you’re gatekeeping.