Part of me wants to main Gentoo just to neutralise any arch smug I come across.
But then I remember I don’t really want a 2nd job
I imagine telling an Arch user you use Gentoo is like telling a Texan that if you cut Alaska into two halves Texas would be the third largest US state.
This thread once again proving that complaints about arch elitism are 1000x more common than actual arch elitism
This would have been the perfect comment if you were from a slightly different instance
Edit: wait there is (was?) an “I use arch btw” instance right? I’m not imagining it?
This guy uses arch btw.No seriously, there’s plenty of arch elitism in this thread alone, And other distros too. You really don’t need to be preemptively defensive about it though.
I just scrolled the whole thread and can’t find any at all, what are you talking about?
Elitism isn’t „I like arch and I think it is good for some stuff”, it’s „I’m smart because I use arch, you’re dumb if you don’t, and any problems you have with it are your fault.”
Gentoo is not that bad. Its just arch with a longer install. You still got to read the wiki when installing something and still have to follow the news.
Gentoo, that’s fun. Brings back a lot of memories from Kindergarten. Let me know when you’re ready to build LFS with the big dogs.
I’m surprised LFS is still around. I used that on my main computer back when Linux kernel versions started with 2.4. it was my third distribution after red hat and Debian
Just main NixOS.
I don’t get that ‘Gentoo takes forever’ argument. With todays hardware it’s really a non-issue. Just let the updates compile in the background while you do other stuff. My Arch install broke several times, not so my Gentoo. Also, the Gentoo community is really kind and don’t treat you like an idiot for not knowing something.
On the other hand, what’s the benefit of running Gentoo on modern hardware?
controversial opinion: distro/software wars are good, because they make people discuss about their software, which motivates the developers. you don’t see windows software wars, because they can’t choose their de
Pretty sure that for most things it’s simply that there’s one software that’s way above the rest or you simply have no interest in the fields where people debate what is best and on Linux you often are stuck with the one software that does the trick because there’s not enough demand for real competition that pushes devs to come up with something as good as what you’ll find on Windows.
For desktop environments gnome and kde are excellent and force each other to improve
I don’t think Libre Office has a good competitor aside from Microsoft Office which hardly matters in the open source world but Libre Office works in windows too
There are several file explorers, many terminal emulators
arch, debian and mint all belong in 1st place
Debian
As long as you’re not using the distro’s 5 year old version of 3D printer slicing software with ancient printer models in it and go for the newest appimage/flatpak instead (just dealt with this last night).
Yep. When it has the package I need,
flatpakelevatesDebianto the last distro I will ever need.And when
flatpakdoesn’t have the package I need, there’s alwaysFedora.(I know - I’m a meme for hating
snapsthat much. Lol.)
It’s amazing how much the combination of those 3 excell at covering almost any use case.
My top five Linux distros:
- Debian: It may not be exciting but its rock stability is what makes it good for the vast majority of people (aka what I would genuenly reccomend to people)
- Alpine: Not the easiest or most stable but very lightweight
- OpenSuse: Stable yet up to date, very good defaults and themeing is amazing (especially on Sway)
- Arch: Ignoring the community or documentation you get a distro with up to date packages and not much else to seperate it
- NixOS: Way too advanced for me but I love the way it works, seems amazing for a select type of people
Of course my opinion is objectively correct and if you disagree im going to burn your house down with combustible lemons (made by my team of scientists ofc) /s
based, alpine is really fun for running on obsolete hardware
antiX is a pretty user friendly and light distro. Plus it’s Debian based.
Honestly when it comes to Debian derivatives Devuan is the only one I would reccomend (still doesnt get in my top 5)
I’ve yet to try Devuan, but I quite like the fact antiX has a bunch of stuff setup, like the WM with Rox and a bunch of apps etc
Devuan is like Debian but without SystemD and much lighter. Like Debian however you set it up yourself so feel free to use whatever WM you want (I personally like Sway).
antiX doesn’t use SystemD, so that works for me. A nice balance between lightweight and being lazy and not having to set it up from scratch, but it doesn’t feel quite as janky as Puppy Linux.
Imo when it comes to lightweight distros theres a reason why you set it up manually, when 100mb is the difference between a usable system it makes sense for the user to customize it to their needs.
I get that. It depends what you’re after. I just wanted something that’d run on old hardware without too much effort.
Why wouldn’t you like systemD? It’s easier to learn than most distributions
I guess its commands are a bit long
Arrays start at 0, which leaves plenty of room for SCO Linux powered by UnitedLinux
Wait, I think there was an underflow error…
Is this a scaldera joke?
It’s ancient, but I couldn’t think of a worse distro
The desktop environment and package manager has a greater effect on your user experience than the distro
I used to use Ubuntu and Mint now I use SteamOS.
How does SteamOS hold up as a daily driver compared to Mint? I always imagined its like a souped up version of steams big picture mode. Is it a good desktop enviroment that comes with ways to manage files and make web app shortcuts?
It runs KDE Plasma 5. I personally prefer MATE but KDE works too.
Distro and package manager are tightly coupled.
Agree. KDE neon is my daily right now. Very good out of the box. I just had to nuke snaps on it. Plays very nicely on laptops in terms of battery life, noise and temperature. Sleep and hibernate also works very well.
you can choose your de, and with some distros (like arch) your packages don’t come preconfigured. which also makes a lot of difference.
- Bog standard Fedora
You’re not wrong.
As my hatred for
snapshas removed Ubuntu from my install set, I’m finding myself quietly installingFedoraanywhere thatDebianwon’t do.My preferences change with the wind, but
Fedorais a fantastic default choice.
“Linux heals the heart, no matter the distro”
- Someone.
I needed to quickly get something up and running on a laptop so that I could take it in the field. I thought about reinstalling arch for a minute but decided to go with Ubuntu. And you know what? It was good enough. The install was easy peasy, and everything just worked right out of the box. If I was setting up a long term machine I’d probably go with arch, but just to get some shit done on a timeline? Yeah, turned out Ubuntu was good enough.
too many possible things can go wrong with installers, with arch I know I’ll get it working faster if even the slightest issue occurs which would otherwise derail installer distros 🤷♂️
Why is everybody so shy about liking Fedora? You don’t have to name lesser distro’s first to make them feel good, you can just outright say Fedora is the best…
Joking. Whatever floats your boat is fine.
It isn’t so much that fedora is the best distro, just that all the other distros are worse.
Using it is just common sense, not something anybody would feel proud about.
This is basically my view as a Fedora user.
College-aged me would have loved Arch. Maybe retirement me will have to play with it for fun in the vaults.
Present-day me however, in middle age with a growing family and a full time job already working on Linux-based software all day, is a total slut for Linux Mint.
It installs and gets running easier and faster than Windows, and is based on widely used and tested stuff from Ubuntu and Debian. It’s not the “learn how operating systems work” distro for sure, but there is a lot of practical use in the world for the “plug the installer drive into your busted old Windows 10 machine and in 15 minutes have a responsive useful Linux PC where your parents can find the Internet browser” distro!
I am very interested to see if SteamOS makes a big push into desktops, though. A whole lot more of the desktop Linux world could become Arch based.
Linux mint is the Toyota Camry of Linux distros.
I like to call it the Sweet Brown distro cause “Ain’t nobody got time for that”
There’s always Bazzite, if you have gamers you want to get into Linux. It would be nice if SteamOS got bigger than it already is, but I don’t know if that’s the direction Valve wants to take it anymore. It seems more to me like they gave up on desktops, and are focusing on the mobile market with the Steam Deck, since that’s someplace where they quickly distinguished themselves.
-1. WSL.
Because everything to do with WSL is negative
If 3 is worse than 1, -1 is better. So I don’t agree with you. WSL is at +∞
Any distribution is better
Recently started using openSUSE Tumbleweed after 15 years of on and off Linux experimentation. I think I’ve finally found the distro to make me stay. :)
I’ve recently switched from Debian to openSUSE Tumbleweed (edit: with KDE) and am extremely impressed, it’s just so polished. German engineering at its finest.
@wzl my top distros are arch & gentoo, i use arch for desktop and gentoo for my server
i’ve a gentoo install for a raspberry when raspbian (now raspberry os) didn’t have support for aarch64 binaries in their repos, but beside that it is fun to customize your install using portage
arch, rhel, opensuse/fedora
