So if people who support Israel’s war immigrate to Israel and people who don’t emigrate from Israel, we’d expect Israelis to get more violent while Jews outside of Israel to get less supportive of Israelis. This doesn’t bode well for Israel long term.
I was gonna say this 82k isn’t much, but then I realized that that’s almost 1% of Israel’s population. If that’s all people who have problems with Israel’s current state, then yeah they’ll probably go even further off the deep end in the coming years. That said, Israeli society is already so insane that it doesn’t matter much at this point. Very few people in Israel actually want the genocide to stop, so their absence shouldn’t change much in the short term. In the long term it decreases the odds of Israel changing of its own accord, but I don’t think anyone was counting on that anyway.
This would decrease the number of people who advocate for Israel’s violence in the countries who provide weapons and political cover, all the while the violence gets worse.
I don’t think Jews are a significant fraction of the people supporting Israel’s genocide. I mean, they support it at below to above average rates depends on where you are and who you ask, but there aren’t enough of them for their immigration to affect the big picture.
Basically what I want to say is that the “limit state”, for lack of a better term, of zero anti-Zionist Jews in Israel and zero Zionist Jews abroad is very close to the current situation, so there’s not much room for change in that direction. We can say that modern Israel is in that limit state. And that leads us to…
This doesn’t bode well for Israel long term.
Exactly. Israel is kinda fucked when gen alpha and the generation after them grow up.
As long as people are voting for one of two genocidal parties that might be true. Although at some point it will be American soldiers doing the fighting and slaughtering, while the Israelis will watch and demand to get more money from the parents of the soldiers dying for them.
Democrats by principal shouldn’t be supporting Israel’s genocide, but clearly they are. What makes you think third party politicians will be any different? Bernie is a Democrat and isn’t corrupt or pro-genocide. At best I’d say the jury is still out on Jill Stein’s loyalties. Third party politicians can be corrupted, and corrupt politicians can infiltrate third parties on false pretence. No, third parties aren’t the solution to this particular problem.
So if people who support Israel’s war immigrate to Israel and people who don’t emigrate from Israel, we’d expect Israelis to get more violent while Jews outside of Israel to get less supportive of Israelis. This doesn’t bode well for Israel long term.
I was gonna say this 82k isn’t much, but then I realized that that’s almost 1% of Israel’s population. If that’s all people who have problems with Israel’s current state, then yeah they’ll probably go even further off the deep end in the coming years. That said, Israeli society is already so insane that it doesn’t matter much at this point. Very few people in Israel actually want the genocide to stop, so their absence shouldn’t change much in the short term. In the long term it decreases the odds of Israel changing of its own accord, but I don’t think anyone was counting on that anyway.
I don’t think Jews are a significant fraction of the people supporting Israel’s genocide. I mean, they support it at below to above average rates depends on where you are and who you ask, but there aren’t enough of them for their immigration to affect the big picture.
Basically what I want to say is that the “limit state”, for lack of a better term, of zero anti-Zionist Jews in Israel and zero Zionist Jews abroad is very close to the current situation, so there’s not much room for change in that direction. We can say that modern Israel is in that limit state. And that leads us to…
Exactly. Israel is kinda fucked when gen alpha and the generation after them grow up.
Israel will be fine, as long as they keep spending a fraction of a percent of the US aid they receive to buy US media and politicians.
As long as people are voting for one of two genocidal parties that might be true. Although at some point it will be American soldiers doing the fighting and slaughtering, while the Israelis will watch and demand to get more money from the parents of the soldiers dying for them.
Democrats by principal shouldn’t be supporting Israel’s genocide, but clearly they are. What makes you think third party politicians will be any different? Bernie is a Democrat and isn’t corrupt or pro-genocide. At best I’d say the jury is still out on Jill Stein’s loyalties. Third party politicians can be corrupted, and corrupt politicians can infiltrate third parties on false pretence. No, third parties aren’t the solution to this particular problem.