Will we know why had universe began, why there is something instead of nothing.

  • Cid Vicious@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Empirical observation can get you the what and the how, but I don’t think it will ever tell you the why. Who says there even is a why?

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    Ultimately, it is extremely rare in nature for there to be just one of anything. Phenomena rarely occur alone. Why should this not extend to the very existence of Universes, independent Big Bangs? Maybe the Big Bang is some incredibly rare quantum fluctuation in the vacuum that occurs by odd chance once every “ten to the ten to the ten to the ten…” years. Some freakishly long length of time. But who cares? There’s no one around to count the empty years. But once in a very blue moon, in some random patch of the vast infinite, infinitely expanding space time, a Big Bang occurs. It has its course and eventually decays down to nothing, returning to the quantum foam from which it sprung. In time, everything decays down to photons, those photons are stretched beyond the cosmic horizon. A Big Bang happens, a Universe thrives, and it decays to nothing. Awhile later, another Big Bang, etc.

    So while a Universe is a rare thing, it is not unique. But in turn, it does give a sense of meaning. Suddenly we are now a part of a grand infinity of time and space. The concept of the Wheel of Time is made literal! And that is the thing that whole religions are built on. There are ways to find meaning in an infinite circle.

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    4 days ago

    Asking “why” only makes sense in the context of a conscious decision, unless you accept something like “because the Big Bang happened” as an answer.

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    I don’t think so. Things seem to be leaning more toward the “stuff spontaneously comes from nothing” end of the spectrum as far as I know. Pre-universe causality makes no sense if our understanding of the universe’s origin is true. I’m personally OK with accepting that things don’t necessarily happen for a reason.

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    We don’t even know if there is a reason or not. If stuff like cause and effect are properties of the universe itself, they they don’t necessarily have to apply to it coming into existence (and if time and space are merely a part of the universe with no equivalent beyond, then the concept of it being caused by something runs into the issue of there being no time before it for a cause to occur and no place before it for that event to happen in).

    There could be some equivalent of all those things of course, that the universe exists within, but we can’t just assume that.

  • Zloubida@lemmy.world
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    No. There is a range of hypotheses, from “none” to “because a supernatural creator willed so”, but they’ll stay hypotheses. You can study them and find which one makes more sense for you, but there will never be certainties.

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    I do not think we will. You can philosophize about it though but a scientific answer is unlikely.
    The reason I think this is that I subscribe to the theory that the universe is the result of a black hole in another parallel universe. Black hole forms, eats matter and spews it back into a newly formed parallel universe, hence all the matter being present without us being able to explain how it came about. We call it the Big Bang. Likewise, we create new parallel universes with our black holes, the cycle continues. Always found it a neat explanation for it al.
    But will we know ‘why’ our universe was created? No, we would need to look beyond the veil and that means going through a black hole and I do not see that happening anytime soon.
    Problem with this theory is of course that matter keeps being flung around, what it the point of origin and will that deplete or be recycled?

    Fascinating stuff and this theory I talk about is most probably wrong as I also believe we are not capable of handling this query.

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    If there was nothing there also wouldn’t be anyone asking “why is there something rather than nothing”. It’s the kind of question that can only be asked in a universe that exists. Then answer to “why?” would basically be that because an unlikely even occured. It could just as well have not, but it did and now you’re here.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    So, in the beginning, there were no “boundaries” because that would imply something exist.

    So if theres no boundaries, it means the “nothingness” is infinite.

    So somewhere within this infinity, there would be a random event which causes the matter and antimatter to not cancel out completely.

    BANG

    Universe exist

    Universe has random things happen

    Galaxy

    Solar system

    Planets

    Earth

    Habitability

    Life

    Animals

    Humans

    Civilization

    Here we are

    🤷‍♂️

    Edit: Non scientific, but, questioning existence is more of a philosophical question. Science probably would never answer it.

  • burgersc12@mander.xyz
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    Well depends on what you mean by “scientific”. Do I think modern science is capable of seeing anything beyond the testable and observable? No way, so there is nothing to determine a “why” with science alone. If there is an answer to why the universe began, I believe you’d have to ask the Infinite Void and hope for a response. According to the big bang theory we all came from one place, i.e. one “thing” created the entire universe, so only that “thing” would know “why” we were created.