• Zacryon@feddit.org
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    I am using Linux for work anyway and used Windoof just for gaming. I have hear good things about gaming on Linux recently, so that’s a good incentive to make the full switch.

      • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Personal preference really but Debian is pretty much just Ubuntu without the bloat. You can also try a lot of them on a live disk without installing (Mint is a good option too).

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    The update claims that Windows Defender now identifies the app as potential malware. Flyby11 is a popular third-party tool that allows people to dodge the TPM 2.0 requirement and install Windows 11 on any machine, so Defender suddenly taking a dislike for the app does raise a few eyebrows.

    Well, it was only a matter of time until MS abuses their malware scanner for software they don’t like.

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    And here I am with windows 11 compatible hardware refusing that upgrade. I’m primarily in Linux on my desktop these days, but it dual boots into windows 10.

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    This is just going to push people who aren’t locked into Windows, away from Windows, and Linux is making a pretty good argument for itself as a viable alternative atm, particularly for gaming.

    Although another option would be to virtualize Windows on a Linux host too, that’s what I’m doing right now /w Win10 LTSC for general apps that aren’t entirely WINE-friendly, and then Win8.1 for some older games that aren’t entirely WINE-friendly, and the Win8.1 VM has my R9 270 being passed through to it over vfio-pci for graphics for that reason.

    The Win10 VM is using VirtIO paravirtualized graphics because its intended use case doesn’t need anything more than basic acceleration as it was spun up mainly for running CUETools on for the things that app can’t do in Mono.

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    Making Win 11 even harder to install is a bold move from Microsoft. Most average users are content with using the OS that comes with their PC and upgrading it when necessary. But if the option is to either buy a new PC or fiddle with registry settings in hope that Win 11 will work, I think a lot more people will start looking at Linux instead.

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      Nope. Brother in law is upgrading all the family PCs (a total of 3) so he can carry on with 11. Only nerds like everyone here and myself will switch to Linux because we know upgrading your PC just to support the OS is ridiculous.

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        Two sides of the same coin though. For every ten people not switching even if there is one, it’s good just for the push alone

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      Should they really though?

      Been daily driving Linux for 15+ years now.

      I recently got a computer that officially supports Linux (framework 13). Running Fedora, an officially supported distro.

      Had to literally compile C code just to change my touchpad scroll speed.

      I love Linux and it’s improved a LOT over the years but there are still things that IMO make it not quite ready for average consumers.

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        That is most likely not a linux issue, but a driver issue, if the driver was as bad on windows as it is on Linux, you would need to do the same to achieve that with that hardware. 🤔

        Or, if handled by window manager, it may be, that there are different implementations for different managers, and yours happened to not support scroll speed change🤔

        To be fair, most common user do not change scroll speed.

        But I agree, most will just continue using unsafe windows 10

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          To the user it’s an OS issue. Manufacturers don’t provide good driver support for Linux. They treat windows as the only first class citizen so there is no need to change the default speed or config on windows.

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            😆”there is no need to change default speed”.

            You know, there is not a globally agreed “perfect” scrolling speed, even if driver is better for windows.

            But the better driver on windows maybe allows changing scroll speed after all.

            I guess not, changing scroll speed does not work on a lot of touchpads, even on windows.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      Let’s not kid ourselves, most people will not start looking at Linux. They should, but they won’t. They’ll continue to use the version of Windows their machine came with, becoming a botnet petri dish in the process, forever, until it breaks or becomes unusable. If Microsoft actually forces their machine to become unbootable they’ll rush off to the mall and replace it with a Mac.

      And in the meantime they’ll click off any nags and warnings Microsoft sends them without reading them.

      Just like happened with XP.

      Just like what happened with Vista.

      Just like what happened with 7.

      Etc.

      Most users are clueless, barely understand how to use their computers except by rote, and therefore are extremely afraid of change. Microsoft could offer a free puppy with your updrade to Win11 and I think about 75% of users would still refuse to take it.

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        Most users won’t. Users that are happy to fiddle with registry settings might be a little more likely to though

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            My partner keeps telling me to stop trying to install Linux on things… It will fix all the problems though! Like someone that only ever uses chrome they could just have an Ubuntu install and I am sure they will be able to manage using firefox.

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              Yes! I di so too 😆 every device with an open/hackable boot loader, I am be like, “You know, you can install Linux on this and be free!”

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      Nah, just us tech heads that are willing to put in the effort (and I’m not, Linux on the desktop has a long way to go, and I use Linux for all sorts of services).

      99% of users can’t be bothered to understand the concept of a web browser, and that there are different ones. Switch them to any Linux distro and they’d freeze like deer in headlights.

      Source: decades of providing support.

      And yes, dumb move my MS, not sure what they’re trying to do here.

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        Just install them a browser and pin it to task bar on mint. Maybe add all important websites to favourites, and boom 99% of use cases of common people: Check ✅

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        not sure what they’re trying to do here

        Maximise profits and minimise losses. My guess is that someone important at Microsoft thinks that this will do just that, and if not that, will make them, personally, a lot of money. That person has no-one who will dare challenge their authority and so we go down this road.

        They (that individual or Microsoft as a whole) almost certainly have a stake in the companies that provide newer hardware, and if they didn’t before this decision, they will have by now.

        It theoretically makes Micosoft’s job easier too. A huge chunk of backwards compatibility maintenance goes out of the window, if you’ll pardon the pun.

        “Oh you have 5 year old hardware? We don’t support that.”

        Sounds fairly similar to Apple’s business model if you think about it that way.

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      It’s like they forgot that their monopoly is ensured by their lenience towards piracy and industry leading backwards compatibility. Being consumer hostile this way is unusual from Microsoft but I guess they hope to make it up by making Windows subscription based in the longer term.

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        Tbh I thought they would have already gone subscription by now. When they announced win11 after saying 10 was the last I was very surprised it wasn’t either free or subscription based. Now I wonder if they will at some point release win12 with AI tools behind pro and make that subscription only.

        I use Linux so I won’t be touching it but will see how it goes. Usually end up having to know at least a little about this as people ask me to fix their windows PCs