• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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    In my experience with conservatives, black athletes broke that barrier a long time ago. The modern version is anything gay - if they see a gay character in a tv show, “everything’s gay now”.

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    It doesn’t have to be something everyone is watching… I had twitter for maybe 2 days before deleting it because somehow this fuckin Matt Walsh clown got served up to me. He was crying about how Drew Barrymore had a trans person on her show. He had like 40k likes on it. How the fuck do you make a living looking for things on tv to be mad about, and why is anyone cheering him on. That’s deranged. CHANGE THE FUCKIN CHANNEL YOU WORTHLESS STOOGE!

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      How the fuck do you make a living looking for things on tv to be mad about, and why is anyone cheering him on.

      Spoken like you must not be recovering from a childhood in a conservative home, lol.

      Finding things to be mad about, is living. It is as natural as breathing. Like breathing, you don’t notice you’re doing it unless you notice you’re doing it. It is what you think about when you plan your day and what makes you open your mouth to socialize with other people. It strongly informs your personality, your social circles, and your hobbies.

      Just be careful you don’t accidentally spend years wrenching your brain out of the negativity malaise, or you might start to do dumb things like being content with what you have, working less, wasting time on rewarding hobbies, or doing nice things for people without expecting something in return. People you aren’t even related to! Could you imagine??

      Of course up above when I say things to be “mad about,” that could also mean “afraid of or confused about, but I am tough and strong and not scared of things and don’t have wussy feminine emotions and so I’m mad rawr!”

      Edit to add: I’m being tough on conservatives because they deserve it, but being addicted to outrage (along with all your favorite psychological biases and logical fallacies) is something that everybody has to be concerned with for themselves.

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        Yeah, I didn’t grow up in a conservative house. I think it’s one thing to be a hate filled individual who actually likes that, and a completely other thing to be a clown pushing that as your job. He brings no value into this world.

        I would say I deleted Twitter not because it served me straight stupidity. More accurately, it was how mad I got seeing his dumb take and all the idiots cheering him on. I was late to Twitter and now I understood what others had been saying. It’s designed to piss you off.

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    I feel like we should have just ignored these people. Deal with the ones who become problems, but otherwise not dignify their nonsense with a response. “Why is this movie so WOKE?” … “So anyway the CGI in this movie was pretty bad right? lol.”

    We spent the last 2 decades feeding the trolls. Making them think they mattered even if it was to be hated or ridiculed by their enemies.

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      We spent the last 2 decades feeding the trolls. Making them think they mattered even if it was to be hated or ridiculed by their enemies.

      YES! I have done my utmost to ignore these neanderthals my entire life because I grew up on 4chan and learned “do NOT feed the trolls” early. But apparently every news reporter and Facebook boomer since 2014 did not get the memo, and -waves at the general state of the world- here we are.

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        The problem with ignoring them is that it then tacitly shows acceptance of these behaviors.

        We’ve already seen this with how women have been treated. Now we’re making some progress by calling it out.

        Additionally, if it’s their goal to get attention then they will act even worse if they don’t get the attention they want.

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          That’s fair, but I think it comes down to what the actual power dynamics of the space is. If you’re in a group that’s systemically discriminated against, just ignoring it means putting up with discrimination. Not getting good jobs, getting harassed by police, etc. you have to actively fight back against that.

          Some dipshit online complaining about seeing a black person in a movie? They only have power proportionate to the attention they get. Let them scream into the void. If they get a comment, it validates what they were saying and gives them another opportunity to respond with even more bullshit that they know will have an engaged audience. If they get nothing, what are they gonna do? Reply to themselves? Keep making posts that get no attention? At some point they’ll just get bored or demotivated. If they do keep being a nuisance you block and/or ban them silently. EDIT: Oh, also, besides the personal validation, there is the algorithmic aspect to consider. Algorithms direct people to things that will hold their attention and get more engagement. The more you talk to these people the more people will get them shoved in their faces.

          People talk about not platforming these people, well, every comment interaction they get is a new tiny stage for them to stand on.

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          Obviously context is important. In meatspace it’s much more important to create friction and pushback. If you’re moderating a platform it’s important to, well, moderate.

          But on social media, attention (good or bad) is currency. So ignoring can be a good strategy.

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          Notice how I’m specifically talking about news headlines, Facebook boomers, and 4chan. All digital spaces. I never said I didn’t call this shit out IRL.

          These people got attention on social media first, and then decided to move it offline. There are whole articles about how Steve Bannon used online spaces to radicalize people because doing it irl was too tough before and during the first Trump presidency. Then newsmedia and every social platform found outrage generated clicks which generated ad revenue during the first Trump presidency, and we have now been living in this racist, fascist hellscape for a decade.

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      If you roll your eyes and think ‘Oh, here they go being racist again’ while the news says how what they are saying is ‘controversial’ or ‘could be seen as’ or any other dismissive phrasing then that is what the post is talking about. Society refuses to call out their racism directly, which enables it.