• conditional_soup@lemm.ee
    1305·
    11 days ago

    You know, the thing that always seemed really scary about the OG Nazis is that they were competent, intelligent, put-together people that were just fucking evil. Then you look at the US Nazis and the fucking bozo density is off the charts, but they seem to be succeeding anyway.

    Three possibilities come to mind:

    • These bozos are going to find out, hard and soon.
    • The OG Nazis were actually bozos too.
    • Competence and intelligence doesn’t actually matter in running a fascist regime
      • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
        1·
        8 days ago

        The high leadership were absolute bozos, except for their propaganda guy (Goebel?). And at the lower levels, they had good engineering (still do). Thankfully the higher ups were more interested in building an über-weapon (because that’s good propaganda) than actually winning the war.

        Let’s hope the current crop of nazis se their downfall faster. Actually, fuck hope. Let’s make them.

      • Whateley@lemm.eeEnglish
        31·
        11 days ago

        Hitler and Himmler believed in “World Ice Theory” which was put forth by some German crackpot who stated the base matter of all reality was ice.

        • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          211·
          11 days ago

          Every German person I’ve ever met talks so confidently about shit that you just kinda assume they know what they’re talking about, until they start talking about a domain you’re an expert in and you realize they’re actually kinda dumb but with good vocabulary.

    • LePoisson@lemmy.world
      14·
      11 days ago

      Hopefully all 3 but as the other poster said, Nazis really were clowns.

      Sure, Hitler had some early successes militarily - combined arms blitzkrieg was a new deal and effective - but it’s not like that won the war. Besides which there is just so much dumbass occult bullshit going on in the background with the Nazis like you would not believe.

      You don’t need to be smart or super competent to get a bunch of people killed. You just need enough people willing to pull the triggers and for the rest of the people to go along. Going along is easy until it ends with shit like the Holocaust.

      • zurohki@aussie.zoneEnglish
        121·
        11 days ago

        Going along is easy until it ends with shit like the Holocaust.

        Have you seen the reactions every time someone suggests it’d be nice if Israel stopped shooting people and taking their land? We’re pro-genocide now.

    • josefo@leminal.space
      12·
      11 days ago

      OG Nazis were master manipulators, dressed cool as fuck and their propaganda machine was one of the best ever. Intelligent? There is no hard evidence of that, and their military strategies were poorly thought. They had fucking cool weapons and equipment, so maybe good engineers were involved, but that’s it.

    • AGreenPurple@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      10·
      11 days ago

      Just look at the military decisions Hitler made, that was luckily an incompetent guy thinking he’s smarter than everyone else. That rings a bell, doesn’t it?

      In the long run, making less stupid decisions wouldn’t most likely have changed the outcome, but even more people would likely have died (and unfortunately the people executing the murder of the Jews weren’t as incompetent as their glorious leader).

      • Boomkop3@reddthat.com
        2·
        11 days ago

        A lot of behaviour in politics is emotionally driven, and sustained by the lazyness of voters not learning how the system they live in works.

        If anything, I think this requires more emotional intelligence and perhaps acting skills.