And they’re easier to set up securely than either renewable or the nuclear plants they’ll likely later become.
Yes, it’d be great if they weren’t sanctioned every other week and threatened with war and could dedicate all of their resources to leap frogging dirty tech… But that’s not the world we live in, the world we live in has people that are rising in quality of life and expecting all the benefits. And they simply have more people than the US and Europe combined while only having the GDP of just the US.
It’s not ideal, they’ve admitted as such, but it’s a necessary step that all western nations took even when better options were on the table, it’s unfair to criticize China when they’re also producing more green energy than the rest of the world.
You keep just ignoring my point that “later” is irrelevant.
But good for them for admitting they’re helping to destroy our environment so that the current generation has a better quality of life. That’s very helpful.
It is more than literally every other country is doing, is my retort to that point. That and unlike western governments, they actually accomplish their goals.
Everyone could be doing more, China is doing the most. If the US especially didn’t spend the last century and a half ignoring climate change while most of the world was still pre industrial agricultural societies, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
So clearly they’re not replacing the capacity with renewables. Or they’re actively reducing their total energy capacity. That’s also an explanation for those numbers.
But hey, anything to excuse the West deciding on lng for their power.
And they’re easier to set up securely than either renewable or the nuclear plants they’ll likely later become.
Yes, it’d be great if they weren’t sanctioned every other week and threatened with war and could dedicate all of their resources to leap frogging dirty tech… But that’s not the world we live in, the world we live in has people that are rising in quality of life and expecting all the benefits. And they simply have more people than the US and Europe combined while only having the GDP of just the US.
It’s not ideal, they’ve admitted as such, but it’s a necessary step that all western nations took even when better options were on the table, it’s unfair to criticize China when they’re also producing more green energy than the rest of the world.
You keep just ignoring my point that “later” is irrelevant.
But good for them for admitting they’re helping to destroy our environment so that the current generation has a better quality of life. That’s very helpful.
It is more than literally every other country is doing, is my retort to that point. That and unlike western governments, they actually accomplish their goals.
Everyone could be doing more, China is doing the most. If the US especially didn’t spend the last century and a half ignoring climate change while most of the world was still pre industrial agricultural societies, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
That’s just a lie. “Literally every other country” is not building more coal plants.
Plenty are getting rid of them.
https://interactive.carbonbrief.org/coal-phaseout-UK/index.html
And yet they’re not replacing them with green energy. Seems like they’re not doing much at all.
That is the second lie you’ve told.
https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/uk-renewable-power-set-to-overtake-fossil-fuels-for-first-time/
You’re resorting to lying to make China look benevolent for building coal plants. It’s not a very good look.
Not a lie, neither the US or EU can compare, https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-renewable-energy
So clearly they’re not replacing the capacity with renewables. Or they’re actively reducing their total energy capacity. That’s also an explanation for those numbers.
But hey, anything to excuse the West deciding on lng for their power.