• notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    That idea of yours would be perfectly fine if it was just you, but it isn’t: it’s you and all other people who think like you

    Definitely not an “idea of mine”. That’s the US experience (I’m a doctor here). The US’s most common electronic medical record system developed a secure messenger app that replaced pagers so yeah for outpatient work most of the time-critical messaging goes through your cell. So no, I can’t be on DND 24/7. (I do have very aggressively tweaked work/personal/etc notification settings, but sometimes the urgent messages do need to come through after hours)

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      5 days ago

      Well, I’m sorry for you guys to have to work under the worst of American management culture (the baseline of which, compared to Northern Europe and Scandinavia, is pretty bad).

      Coming from a Southern Europe country and having worked in a couple of countries including Northern European ones, it’s my experience that a lot of those abusive work practices you see in Anglo-Saxon and Southern European management cultures are neither needed nor efficient, and instead are just the product of bad organisation (read: incompetent management) and employees enduring it under the mistaken assumption that “that’s just the way things are”/“there is no other option” because they’ve never worked in an environment with proper management.

      If there is one thing that going to Northern Europe and working there taught me is that those things are almost never needed and most definitelly are not universally the way things are.

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        the more specialized the workforce, the harder it is to overcome staffing limitations. for example, in Italy, there’s a huge physician shortage (at least when I lived in Europe there was). You won’t fix that with simply changing the management culture.

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        5 days ago

        it’s neither a US- nor a profession-specific issue. it’s an issue of any high-stakes, relatively niche occupation.

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          Not really any one, most sectors have office hours, schedules, on-call rotation etc.

          It’s unusual to saddle a single person with 24/7 required availability. Do you not have a single colleague you can rotate after hours calls with?

          • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world
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            5 days ago

            Headline reads: “i turned off ALL notifications forever”.

            My take: there exist people who can’t do that.

            Your take: US bad.

            My take: not a US-specific issue.

            Your take: please describe your call schedule in detail because your claim is unusual.

            Thank you, but no thank you.

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              As a Dr’s kid nothing you have said sounds unusual for your job. My dad didnt like getting calls asking for free care but he was more than happy to run to the neighbors house when my buddy, aged 5, called at 3am and said “The baby is blue!”. That baby is 45 years old now and not blue.

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              Yeah I think your inability to turn off notifications is artificial. There’s no reason that these emergency calls can’t go to a landline in a staffed hospital instead of directly to one specific doctor.

              If the organization requires this, that’s different from it actually being impossible to do otherwise.

              If your hospitals are businesses, you as their employee are subsidising them. They could spend the money on an additional, qualified doctor, but they won’t.

              • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world
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                5 days ago

                So many assumptions…

                1. You assume that there aren’t life or death exceptions/emergencies (see my updated post above).
                2. You assume that I only practiced medicine in the USA
                3. You assume that US hospitals run like businesses (private insurance companies, most hospitals don’t)
                4. You assume doctors, especially subspecialists grow on trees.