What era in time do these people think R’s are trying to conserve to, after or before civil rights?

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    “Dear Republicans. When I voted to have people’s rights stripped away and their lives ruined, I didn’t think it included me!”

    Eat shit, asshole.

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    Notice how the author justifies himself. He’s pro-life, 2nd, ect…

    This screams “I’m one of the good ones”, and implies that he has internalized homophobia. Anyway, it’s some next level “pick me” shit.

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    Just one man’s opinion, but I’d rather have the picture and discussion here than a link to reddit.

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      Did the picture not show up for you here? I’m using old.lemmy.world so i can see it on my end

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        I don’t know why octopus posted that or how it has the most votes, because you didn’t post a reddit link. I am using the Voyager app and I can see the image.

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        I had to click through to reddit though. (And FWIW it did not link to old.reddit)

        Not giving you a hard time though, just grumpy about reddit because reddit. :D

        In any case it looks like you edited it and it loads fine now… 🙂

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    I know very little about gay rights history in the US but in a quick search I learned that the supreme court case that made same sex marriage legal was put forth by a Democrat.

    Another thing is that I’m under the impression that the Replublican party is very much a Religeous party that does not reconize anything outside Men-Women relations. I’m always confused to hear about gay Republicans.

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      The issues with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans seem similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews, being gay isn’t a character trait, it’s a sexuality and its stands to reason that lots (although a minority) of gay people are generally conservative when it comes to every other issue than gay rights. And they deceive themselves into the idea that they can be “one of the good ones” and either that the party has already, or that they will move the party towards an accepting attitude.

      LCR president Greg Angelo described the “preservation of LGBT rights and support for the LGBT community” as hallmarks of Donald Trump’s 2016 Presidential campaign, and asserted that support would continue during his presidency.

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    Talking to Republican acquaintances who have lost their jobs to musk, they all say similar ideas. “I’m team Republican, so I voted R. Couldn’t let the Ds win. They are the like our division rivals”. Its literally a game to them, and election day is their Superbowl.

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      the greatest con ever played on the public was convincing tens of millions of Americans that their civil rights were a game to them. Normalizing an attitude of “we might loose, but they won’t win either”.

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        Us vs Them isn’t red vs blue, it’s the rich donors vs their productive workers. The vast majority of Republicans and Democrats are actually on the same “side.”

        Developing class consciousness is one of the few ways out of this mess.

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          i agree wholeheartedly. there ain’t no warfare but class warfare. look at iraq, do you really think we would have gone in if they were just another dirt poor country? naw.

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    I don’t understand how he missed the part that Republicans are largely anti-lgbtq.

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      Everyone who supports authoritarianism thinks they’re going to be the exception. They can see other people who their politics denigrates as outsiders easily, but they could never be outsiders because they’re them and they buy into the bullying. They think signalling that they’re on board with mistreating other people will protect them from being mistreated, but all it does in reality is create a society where no one is safe.

      Even the powerful people who buy into this thinking will find that it bites them in the ass eventually. They may be late on the list, but they’re still on the list. Eventually either the ever-shrinking circle of “insiders” will exclude them, or they’ll be in the last in-group once they’ve alienated the rest of society and put their own safety at risk. Every dictator is terrified of this, because they’ve seen how it plays out. They’re just gambling that it won’t happen to them, but eventually the mob will come. The best they can hope for is to delay it as long as possible.

      But queer Republicans? Republicans of color? Disabled Republicans? Republican women even? They’re on the chopping block from the start and are only surrounding themselves with the people who want to diminish them while alienating anyone who might genuinely want to help.

      All the more reason they can’t look directly at it. They think if they don’t make eye contact or try to fight back or run, the predator won’t come for them. They couldn’t be more wrong.

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      I am pro second amendment. I believe the constitution explicitly grants the states the right to regulate militias.

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      Im pro 2ndA Democrat as well but this who thing is pretty damning proof that there is no need for guns because we Wouldn’t use them anyways.

      But damn guns are fun to shoot… But im not sure the pros outweigh the cons anymore since the biggest pro seems to be a lie and the biggest con is how many of us die needlessly to them.

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    “[…] this will only push me and other people like me out.”

    I mean… Yeah… That IS kind of their whole point!?

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      Many want Trump voters to be this kind of evil villain, but if you know any, they’re dumb, arrogant, fragile assholes.

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          Where that falls short is just how much of the population that appears to include. I’m all set to believe in plain incompetence, weaponized incompetence, stubborn incompetence …. But 50% of voters?

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            It’s obviously not an absolutism, though I think we’d be surprised how many people it covers. Propaganda runs deep in this country and the distorted funhouse mirror that they view the world through is pretty effective. Certainly there are bad actors, but it’s a small part of the whole. Even those on “the left” (in truth they are mostly center right) have a skewed and highly misinformed view of politics. Many people’s hearts are in the right place but their brains are mush and the Overton window is so far right that they can’t tell their asses from a hole in the ground. Generational trauma has created a country of Stockholm Syndrome victims who identify with their captors (the rich). To paraphrase Warren Buffet “It’s a class war and the rich are winning”. Working class unity and class consciousness are the only thing that might save us. I’m not convinced that THAT will happen though, given what I see going on and the response. I really hope I’m wrong.

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            Deep in human history, staying in good graces with our tribe was more important to survival than having beliefs be factual. We are genetically hardwired to pull whatever mental gymnastics are required to maintain membership in the tribe, because our ancestors who failed at that died before passing on their genes. It’s not really stupidity or incompetence, it’s an operating system property.

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        They’re disgusting Traitors, every last one of them. When this is over, we should shun every last one of them from society.

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            It’s pretty obvious who voted for Hitler, it’s the same whack-a-doodle Christians that voted for Trump. It’s always the religious weirdos who can’t keep it to themselves and feel the need to censor anyone who doesn’t think like them. Anytime I saw a church in Germany I assumed it was much like America: a fascist stomping ground under the watch of perpetually tortured dude who did nothing wrong. So fucking wierd.

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        Because Democrats are icky. They have emotions and feelings and empathy and stuff. Not like real men. /S

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    White gay man doesn’t believe he’s part of the LGBTQ+ community anymore because he sees people like him on TV… He’s just now realizing that his buddies would rather not see people like him on TV.

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      He does not seem to be realizing it. He makes it sound like a new trend of only a few people

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    Education is really lacking. LGBT+ Republicans are some of the stupidest, most selfish, and downright deplorable people in conservative circles. They post these goofy ass posts like this as if they should be immune from the issues everyone else in our community is fighting to protect. “New” Conservative movement my ass that would defeat the point of conservatives.

    Acting like these people aren’t trying to destroy the efforts of progressives from the last 50+ years because that is the “Great” in MAGA would be hilarious if it wasn’t pathetic. I get that these people are emotional and political masochists but they need to take it home.

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    Imagine having your head so far up your ass you think Trump is friendly to the gays. HO-LY SHIT! Jesus Americans are so fucking dumb…

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    What a useful fucking idiot of a dumpster fire. You’re gay and vote for the guy who wants you to lose rights? Either you’re a complete fucking idiot, or you’re a psychopath who’s also a complete fucking idiot.

    So many “gays” were pro trump over at askgaybros. Now they post in gay conservative and gaslight each other.

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      It’s a tale as old as time. They don’t see themselves as the ‘bad’ gays or Jews or whatever that their leaders and other Republicans/Torys/Religions etc hate. They think they’ll be spared because they’re special. All the way to the camps they believe this.