• MetalMachine@feddit.nl
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    8 months ago

    We have to start accepting that israel is the modern day nazi state that must be deconstructed.

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    8 months ago

    I only form political opinions based on whether the person saying it is dude bro enough.

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      8 months ago

      Politics is a popularity contest after all. That’s how Joe Rogan’s moronic “politics” got everywhere. At least Hasan has an idea what he’s talking about much of the time and does on-the-ground journalism.

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        8 months ago

        Look into what Hasan says VS how he acts. He preaches socialism but steals money from other content creators constantly, as one example. He’s entirely two-side and just as bad as H3.

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          Hasan is as bad as H3H3 genocide supporting Zionists because you do not understand how socialism works?

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            They both virtue signal towards different sides on that specific topic. But in their broader histories, they both just talk without research and bully random individuals for little reason. They both preach leftist politics yet choose to take from the less fortunate whenever they can.

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              8 months ago

              Hasan is one of the most educated streamers pertaining the genocide constantly covering it at his own expense.

              H3 is a genocidal Nazi maniac. Comparing the two shows how deeply unserious you are.

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        Hasan is a selfserving dickhead who poisons the well for most people not already into leftist politics. He refuses to be truly critical and reflective of stuff on his own side.

        This kind of message needs to reach the “normies” to sway public opinion and put pressure on Israel to stop. But at the same time, with an 5 minutes google you see the dude brings Houthis onto his stream because “they’re just like Luffy.” That’s was not journalism, it’s was propaganda for clicks and views.

        I see some of same bullshit the right pulls being done by him and his community. And I’m saying this as someone who agrees with most of his takes.

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          Ah so you need grifter Liberals to say it and not someone who had the correct take since the beginning.

          Just admit Hasan was right all along and move on. No need to take even more Ls

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            Take it however you want to fit your narrative. Hasan himself said a thousand times at the beginning of his career that his objective was to be a gateway for normies to easily get into leftist politics. He lost sight of that along the way, and I blame both him and his community for it.

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              8 months ago

              Lost sight by speaking out against a genocidal Apartheidsstate at a time almost nobody dared to do because they were afraid to get cancelled for it? Such a poser that Hasan guy.

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                Yes, keep going and doing purity tests, you guys are doing an great job at stopping… nothing I guess? As a non-American, I never thought I’d see the American empire crumble from within like this, but unfortunately, I understand how it’s happening.

                Have fun.

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                  Genocide support is a pretty good place to draw a red line. Which encompasses most content creators… not named Hasan Piker.

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      8 months ago

      So now he is good on Gaza but you accuse him of something else without mentioning the accusation?

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          He never took the Russian side. He accurately predicted the West throwing Ukrainians into the meatgrinder to weaken Russia and then leaving Ukraine hanging.

          You know, like the West is doing right now.

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              Justifiable means reasons can be made up for it by people to justify it.

              Justified means he agrees with those reasons.

              These are two different words.

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                  No that is not justifiable because Zionists have no right to be present on Palestinian land.

                  The Russia argument is among others about the Ukrainian neo Nazis (which some folks somehow really do not want to acknowledge exist) attacking Russian speaking Ukrainians. Most famously Azov. And the whole NATO debacle.

                  This does not mean Russia has the right to annex Ukraine, but pro Russians use it as excuse to justify the invasion.

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    I don’t really get how the bad guys are a country fighting the literal Muslim Brotherhood who continue to hold American citizens and many others hostage for 529 days.

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      Because they are attacking civilians, children, hospitals and UN aid deliveries, and have outspoken goals of removing all Palestinians from their homes. War crimes and ethnic cleansing seems like pretty bad guy stuff to me. Both sides can be bad.

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        True both sides can be bad, but one side made secularism illegal and is funded by actual terrorist organizations and the other is funded by a nation-state who actually is a secular multicultural society inclusive of LGBTQ people.

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          secular

          The secular, explicitly Jewish state.

          multicultural

          With a system of apartheid and that’s committing genocide on another culture. I mean, I guess apartheid South Africa could also be described as “multicultural,” in the sense that multiple cultures existed, with one oppressing the other. Nazi concentration camps? Very multicultural.

          inclusive of LGBTQ people.

          That doesn’t recognize same-sex marriage and indiscriminately murders queer Palestinians alongside cishet ones.

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            8 months ago

            Everything you said here is factually correct, in case anyone comes here to argue what you said.

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              8 months ago

              So when you described them as a “secular, multicultural society inclusive of LGBTQ people,” you were lying, then.

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                If you had any actual reading comprehension and some level of functional reasoning you would see that i wasn’t describing the country of Isreal but rather who is supporting them.

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                  Oh, I see, so it’s the US that’s rapidly descending into christofascism and conducting mass deportations and sending trans women to men’s prisons which is the “secular, multicultural society that’s inclusive of LGBTQ people,” and you’re just regurgitating shitty arguments used to justify the Iraq war because “inequality’s already been solved here, now we just need to take over other countries to force them to adopt our peaceful ways” except somehow even less coherent because the country that’s actually involved is completely indefensible and the people being targeted are being slaughtered even more indiscriminately.

                  I did read your “funded by” earlier, I just processed it as talking about like, the IDF being funded by Israel or something, because that’s the only thing that would be anywhere close to being relevant or resembling a point. If I donate $5 to one side in a conflict and then shoot up a playground, does that make the other side automatically justified? If I give one side a gun and then save a baby from a burning building, does that make that side automatically justified? How does this work in your mind, exactly?

      • Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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        8 months ago

        Don’t harass mods, they volunteer a lot of time to the community, and they have their right to an opinion if they aren’t silencing others’.

        • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          I literally left lemmy.world as a user when the e-mail I used to register there was leaked and a Tel-Aviv based organisation started sending me e-mails to it, in my native tongue (which is not English), to attend their “Learn about Israel” online course.

          I have little doubt in my mind that at least one of their admins is either a sockpuppet of a state actor or a rabid Zionist.

          You can be pretty sure that if the former, their “Lemmy.world admin” time is being paid for.

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      8 months ago

      Go on that link and check the editing list. It’s very interesting and worth looking at the dates and how it peaks Oct 7 2023