They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn’t mean you don’t produce rubbish…

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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    I used to work for the Woodland Trust and believe that this is the right thing to do. Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow and attract unwanted pests like rats. Rats will also eat the eggs of ground nesting birds and cause other environmental issues.

    If they are selling food on site then the food vendor should have a bin that their customers can use inside their cabin/cafe and dispose of the waste daily as part of the service.

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      Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow

      Think I found the problem— why not do the obvious thing and empty them more often?

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        Genuine answer here, as someone who volunteers for the parks. A lot of times the budgets are tight, depending on whose responsibility it is to clean up the area and what services are there/nearby, the staffing just isn’t available. Yeah it’s a pretty easy thing to do in theory, but in practice when it becomes “okay and 2 hours of your shift is driving out there and emptying the cans” it’s not a far leap to just “Remove the cans, make the snack stand dispose of their garbage on their own”

        I mean I get it, the cans are nice but also, like you’re an adult. Throw your trash away on your own.

        “But then people will throw it on the ground!” Okay then pay someone to stand out there and slap every idiot that thinks littering is okay because they couldn’t find a can in 10 seconds.

        It’s common decency in plenty of places around the world to take your garbage with you until you find a can. It’s not hard.

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          That’s literally the patio of a commercial place that sells food enclosed in trash.

          If they rely on volunteers to clean the trash, a lot of people are doing lots of things very wrong.

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        Because that would mean employing someone to empty them regularly, and as most woodland is few and far between in this country most woodland owners deem that an unnecessary expense.

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            In this instance, yes, but which is why I said the cafe worker should have an internal bin for customer usage. In most other cases there is no one on site for weeks at a time.

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              Didn’t realise visits would be so irregular, so I apologise for the sarcasm.

              Also hate that people are shit.

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      This is right by the cafe/site office/car park though. The reception desk is about 20m to the left and staffed during daylight hours year round.

      Not like it’s in the middle of nowhere.

      I get your point, there are very few bins elsewhere (mostly by the other car parks) and that’s fine. It’s just that the place that gives you rubbish makes it hard to responsibly get rid of it.