I don’t see the point in doing men’s vs women’s clothing sizes. Surely there’s a big enough variance in size and shape between individuals that it would be more useful to size based off of measurements of body shape?
Take shoes for example. Why is a uk men’s size 10 so wildly different from a UK women’s size 10?
All it seems to achieve is making shopping for clothes difficult for anyone that doesn’t fit into the expected body shape for their gender and make it hard to find well fitting clothes outside of specialist shops.
Nowadays all women’s clothes are straight up and down, the only difference is pink. It’s a nightmare for women who are shaped like women.
Are women who fit into the clothes you describe not women?
Did I end up on Ravelry?
That’s just not… true… Maybe the ones you choose to buy 🤣
Have a look at German clothing sites for fun. There is no “choice”.
… I’m from Germany and talking from a German perspective. I can ask some of my female friends where they get their clothes if you want?
Sure. But Popken, C&A, Bella Green, Bonprix, P&C (both iterations), Cecil, Braxx, etc. do not believe in boobs or hips. I found a French company that does, but they’re horrifyingly expensive.
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Ehh I’ve had to use women cuts shirt ss undershirts sometimes, even if the size was right they always felt tight across the back and shoulders