• dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
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        1 year ago

        How do we know it was negligence? I suspect there is a whole lot of conjecture going on here, but I’m happy to be humbled.

        Also, your post reads as I am very badass. Perhaps, we could all exercise positive intent a little more.

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          1 year ago

          We aren’t disagreeing that they hit the elephants - if it’s not negligence, then do you think it was on purpose?

          I’m not a badass at all, but literally everyone with offspring would feel the same way, even animals.

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            1 year ago

            Is neither an option?

            Negligence and on purpose don’t seem like the only reasons for an accident. They could have had no time to react to an elephant in the road.

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              1 year ago

              I don’t believe it is, no. Going faster than your reaction time (given road conditions) is negligence that caused a collision, not an “accident”.

              Elephants have not been conditioned to accept these choices as unavoidable. We had been traveling next to them harmlessly for thousands of years.

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                1 year ago

                And is it inconceivable that the elephant was startled by something else and ran into the road?

                I’m just saying that things like this can be nobodies fault at all. There are 8 Billion humans have interactions with other humans and being every moment of everyday, so you can tell me that an elephant couldn’t get killed by a complete faultless accident.

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                  1 year ago

                  It is conceivable, but that doesn’t make it not negligence. If you can’t see the sides of the road well enough to stop for something (or someone) running in the way, then you need to slow down.

                  FWIW I’ve lived places with large animals like this, and the main reason careful people drive slow in those areas is so the driver won’t die hitting an adult animal. Everyone is aware of this and most drivers knowingly choose risk everyone’s lives anyways.

                  This was neither faultless nor accidental because the elephant had a reasonable expectation of being allowed to cross, and a driver is always expected to drive a speed at which their stopping distance is less than their reaction distance. Sometimes that means you have to drive frustratingly slow.

        • biddy@feddit.nl
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          11 months ago

          Because they hit an elephant calf. Driving too fast to avoid hitting an obstacle is negligent.

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      1 year ago

      They were surprised by the elephant calves after turning a corner. They tried to stop and almost succeeded

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        1 year ago

        If you can’t see far enough to stop if there’s something in the road, slow the fuck down. Negligence by any reasonable definition

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          1 year ago

          I agree that they were not driving carefully enough. It’s not like elephants jump out like deer and kangaroos