• Nougat@fedia.io
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    5 days ago

    While there are certainly shitty, bigoted reasons to be anti-Israel, there are a fuckton more undeniably good reasons to be anti-Israel.

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      The Christian nationalist fascists love Israel not just because of their warmongering, genocide, and apartheid, but also because they think its existence keeps Jewish people off in their own country away from everyone else.

      It sounds contradictory, but the vast majority of support for Israel is literally rooted in antisemitism.

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        Also the whole end times death cult thing about the Jewish State being a sign of the impending apocolypse and rapture and all the GOOD people don’t actually DIE because God takes them up in the mothershipand for seven years all the heathens duke it out andm ake shit worse before Christ comes back and throug hthe power of The Word MURDERS PEOPLE.

        Source. Am Christian. If you can’t point at the bullshit in your own house… I mean. Stones. Glass house. Right?:)

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      The distinction is hating the government specifically. It’s unlikely a bigot would hate the government, but not the people.

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        The distinction is hating the fascist ideology (zionism) specifically.

        There are anti-zionists within the regime trying to make improvements.

        https://tribunemag.co.uk/2024/11/anti-zionist-israeli-mp-i-will-never-surrender

        Although it seems extremely unlikely, the government could be reformed or replaced. But (like any form of fascism) the genocidal, supremacist, colonial ideology of zionism is irredeemable.

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        No I also hate all zionist israelis. Nazi germany would’ve ended overnight had just a large plurality of workers stopped supporting the military. But it was the 1940s, there was no way they could know the horrors of the holocaust.

        Israel would end within a week of a national strike by israeli citizens, and they can’t even claim ignorance like nazi civilians could have. The truth is a majority of israelis support zionism and support the regime despite having all information available.

        Hating the people is okay too. As long as you’re hating them for the content of their character, not their nationality or other immutable characteristic.

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          Most germans knew about the deportations, the torture and murder.

          It wasnt just the jews that disappeared, but also your grocer, who was active in the KPD or your former village mayor, who belonged to the SPD or your friend, who made a joke on the tram and got executed.

          My grandparents and great-grandparents knew. Just like zionist israelis.

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          Hating the government implies also hating the people who support the government.