The Soviet Union and Maoist China both had central authorities and millions of people starved to death because of collectivization. Do you think they just weren’t trying hard enough?
There were literally famines before Stalin and Mao. And both places were being invaded by other countries, and had their own farmers sabotage the crops to make people raise up against the government. Also, once that was taken care of, nobody ever died of a famine even under Stalin or Mao and let alone after them.
Lets talk about how Britain purposefully created a famine that killed millions of Irish and Indians, shall we? And how European powers take away food security from Africa, and millions starve to death every year under capitalism.
The Holodomor happened years before the second world war started, The Great Leap Forward was over a decade after it had ended. Both of these were man-made famines inflicted during peacetime by communist governments upon their own people. Millions of people do not starve every year under capitalism, that’s just ridiculous.
Why would we talk about how empires treat their conquered subjects? That has nothing to do with capitalism and communism, you’re just trying to change the subject. I’m defending empires, war and conquest are terrible no matter who’s doing it.
Ignorance and bad faith? Every accusation is a confession.
Still ignorant and bad faith arguments that lacks any historical nuance
The Holodomor happened years before the second world war started
The USSR was being under constant invasions by the world powers that didn’t want to allow a socialist state to exist. Add to that, that the kulaks sabotaged their own crops to make people revolt and overthrow the socialist government.
The Great Leap Forward was over a decade after it had ended.
China was a poor agrarian country which infrastructure was destroyed by Japan. It constantly had famines that killed people even before that. Mao just couldn’t fix the issues that caused famine fast enough for another one not to repeat.
Literally millions of people starve in Africa due to not having enough money to eat, and due to the privatization of food and fields. That is capitalism. It is insane that you would say otherwise. And even in America lots of people are food insecure. And a capitalist nation Israel has killed like 100k people and a capitalist nation Germany killed 50 Million people.
Colonization is part of capitalism. Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism and so is fascism
The Soviet Union and Maoist China both had central authorities and millions of people starved to death because of collectivization. Do you think they just weren’t trying hard enough?
This is such a bad faith and ignorant argument.
There were literally famines before Stalin and Mao. And both places were being invaded by other countries, and had their own farmers sabotage the crops to make people raise up against the government. Also, once that was taken care of, nobody ever died of a famine even under Stalin or Mao and let alone after them.
Lets talk about how Britain purposefully created a famine that killed millions of Irish and Indians, shall we? And how European powers take away food security from Africa, and millions starve to death every year under capitalism.
The Holodomor happened years before the second world war started, The Great Leap Forward was over a decade after it had ended. Both of these were man-made famines inflicted during peacetime by communist governments upon their own people. Millions of people do not starve every year under capitalism, that’s just ridiculous.
Why would we talk about how empires treat their conquered subjects? That has nothing to do with capitalism and communism, you’re just trying to change the subject. I’m defending empires, war and conquest are terrible no matter who’s doing it.
Ignorance and bad faith? Every accusation is a confession.
Still ignorant and bad faith arguments that lacks any historical nuance
The USSR was being under constant invasions by the world powers that didn’t want to allow a socialist state to exist. Add to that, that the kulaks sabotaged their own crops to make people revolt and overthrow the socialist government.
China was a poor agrarian country which infrastructure was destroyed by Japan. It constantly had famines that killed people even before that. Mao just couldn’t fix the issues that caused famine fast enough for another one not to repeat.
Literally millions of people starve in Africa due to not having enough money to eat, and due to the privatization of food and fields. That is capitalism. It is insane that you would say otherwise. And even in America lots of people are food insecure. And a capitalist nation Israel has killed like 100k people and a capitalist nation Germany killed 50 Million people.
Colonization is part of capitalism. Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism and so is fascism
Begone capitalist bootlicker