• SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de
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    9 months ago

    And those anxious and xenophobic motherfuckers gonna live for sooo much longer than their parents. They easily gonna leech from my salary for the next two decades while I will certainly not get a dime from the generations after me. That generation lived of the wealth of the generations before them AND after them.

  • oroboros@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    If only society was designed around looking after people instead of infinite competition, maybe this wouldn’t be so much of a problem

  • Peaty@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    And it’s this exact problem that will get solved with the immigration from climate change. Europe is going to get more African migrants fleeing climate change.

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    9 months ago

    It’s not passing such a milestone that’s an issue, so much as how fast we pass it - i.e. a population decline is sustainable if gradual. My concern is that our models of economics and governance derive from previous centuries when population was rapidly growing, which helped provide social mobility and influence for younger generations. So we need to adjust economics and governance to compensate, to avoid stagnation and gerontocracy.

  • lud@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    And this is why the retirement ages have to be raised in many countries.

    People live longer and fewer young to take care of the old (and the economy in general)

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    9 months ago

    2023 is the hottest year ever in record. Everything suggests that it won’t hold that record for long. Why would I bring children to this world to suffer the hell that 2050 will be?

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      9 months ago

      Because at least you are thinking about such problems (unlike too many). I thought similarly back in 1998, many records broken since, we’re still here, now glad my children are too and getting educated, to help society get through this. By the way the original post is from Ireland which may not get so much warmer (depends thermohaline circulation…) - maybe stormier, although much (not all) of europe will still be nice to live in 2050, adaptation may include many people relocating.

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    9 months ago

    Europe has proven we can’t fix this by importing millions of unskilled people with radically different values. The social unrest is proving catastrophic. Rightwing parties are gaining traction in almost every European country. The EU is on track to accept more than a million applications this year alone, and most of them have large families which will be granted reunification. Data shows most of them will never work a day in their lives. Our social systems will collapse within a decade at this rate. We’ll be lucky if the EU itself survives this.

    Instead, we really need to alleviate the issues resulting in young people not having kids. The usual argument is, “it’s too expensive.” While true, data shows that income isn’t a barrier to fertility. In fact, higher income results in lower fertility, with some exceptions at the very top end of the income spectrum.

    • redprog@feddit.de
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      9 months ago

      As a German, I call bullshit. Every asylum seeker I’ve met either had a job/went to school or was denied a job because the application didn’t go through yet. I’m sure there are people out there who don’t want to work, but please show me the data which shows that “most of them will never work a day in their lives”. Your comment sounds EXACTLY like the rhetorics of the same right-wing you pretend to condemn.