I mean people who bow out of “constructive participation” have likely been failed by their society in some/multiple ways (physical/mental healthcare, housing/community, transportation, or other ways related to money). Hard to be productive when you can’t fully function for even yourself.
Then again, it’s a coin-flip on if they-who-hate(s)-the-government want(s) to fix those problems or if they want corporations to run everything (more than they already do, yet with no accountability at all). Maybe that’s what you meant, but lacking that specificity (better with something like thing-that-you-do-care-about is political). If that is your point, also easier-said-than-done especially with broken political systems and large-scale problems that are caused by still-upheld decades-old bad policy.
But do you actually think anyone actually never tried in their entire life, and don’t you think maybe they’d have reasons for anything close to that being the case? Or are you going to say “nah it’s really just you (but not in a way that you deserve help with), I see no issues out here and effort is definitely worth it you must’ve just done it wrong (and even if not, still your fault).”
I mean people who bow out of “constructive participation” have likely been failed by their society in some/multiple ways (physical/mental healthcare, housing/community, transportation, or other ways related to money). Hard to be productive when you can’t fully function for even yourself.
Then again, it’s a coin-flip on if they-who-hate(s)-the-government want(s) to fix those problems or if they want corporations to run everything (more than they already do, yet with no accountability at all). Maybe that’s what you meant, but lacking that specificity (better with something like thing-that-you-do-care-about is political). If that is your point, also easier-said-than-done especially with broken political systems and large-scale problems that are caused by still-upheld decades-old bad policy.
Or they never tried since it’s hard and bitching about it is free.
Sure, maybe.
But do you actually think anyone actually never tried in their entire life, and don’t you think maybe they’d have reasons for anything close to that being the case? Or are you going to say “nah it’s really just you (but not in a way that you deserve help with), I see no issues out here and effort is definitely worth it you must’ve just done it wrong (and even if not, still your fault).”