My mum spoke to me shortly after it was announced that he’d died and I kinda was like “okay, feel bad for this children who had to witness it, can’t say I can sympathise with him though he was hardly a saint himself” and my mum was like “he spoke out against the woke people” over and over

I told her he literally said little kids dying in school shootings is worth it so people can have guns. he said empathy doesn’t exist and he doesn’t have empathy for kids being killed. He ridiculed disabled people in his circles. That he advocated for the genocide in Gaza by supporting Israel’s actions.

Then she was like “no no no you got it all wrong he was giving a speech when someone asked him if more people die from gang shootings or school shootings, then he was shot” even though the thing I was talking about was from 2023. He’s a man in a position of power and authority and influence over others, it’s a bit different from “just having a different opinion”.

She ended up getting pissed off at me and blanking me after that but I don’t care. I guess me caring more about kids dying than guns makes me officially “woke” now but so be it. I’ll stand by the fact I can’t find anything redeemable about this man or any reason to sympathise with him

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    None of the variations of “woke” have ever been a bad thing to be.

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      Indeed. Woke is anti-oppression and the system of oppression wants you to go back to sleep.

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      Charlie actually had tons of examples of why woke is evil. They all happen to be strawmen and fictitious, but he was never short of examples.

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          The point of straw man arguments is to then knock the straw man down. You’re showing how strong you are against something that isn’t real and only scares people who can’t tell the difference between a human and an analogue of a human.

          It sounds like he was decidedly pro-crow. And then he ate crow.

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      Honestly I’ve resorted to asking them to define “woke” and then break it down and ask them which “woke” attribute they’re against. They usually shut up and go away as, I hope, they realize on some level how stupid they sound saying they’re against basic human decency and rights.

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      Crusties spending decades bemoaning the decline of respect and manners among the yoof, suddenly the switcheroo and they now bemoan the yoof for having respect and manners.